[Bf-committers] 2.5 release

Roger Wickes rogerwickes at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 17 16:31:36 CET 2009

With all due respect, I disagree totally with the request to add
all button, even if they go nowhere. I think it is misleading,
and a lot of useless work, to put in buttons that go nowhere.
I would only agree if we were using an automated GUI testing
tool that clicked on certain coordinates in executing the script.
In that case, we would want to preserve those coordinates
for later regression testing. If the goal of the release was to 
get feedback/work out UI placement and arrangement, cool,
but that is not one of the goals of the release, afaik.

Users that see a button like to click it. Otherwise, you are 
introducing a decision point into the process, which is "Is this
feature implemented in this beta?" and I would bet dollars to
donuts they would not know. Hence, if a feature WAS supposed
to be in there, but was broken, clicking the button with no response
masks the error, as the user will assume it was not in the release.

+1 spacebar and bb, however, I thought some future release
will give users the ability to map whatever key to whatever function.

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From: Knapp <magick.crow at gmail.com>
To: bf-blender developers <bf-committers at blender.org>
Sent: Tue, November 17, 2009 2:49:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] 2.5 release

I know the theory and I also am part of a group on #blender that is
using 2.5 now and filing bug reports. I still stick by what I said.
One the other hand, if this is to be called beta0 then release as that
but be sure that at least all the features have buttons, even if the
buttons don't work yet.

Many opinions are being formed now and a lot of that is based on new
things that are there and old things that are not there (but I think
will be on the final??). This leads me to the thought that having the
UI/GUI finished even on a beta0 is very important. The buttons don't
have to work but they must be there.

As I provide help to new 2.5 users, the BIGGEST problem is that they
can't find shift A and for me that space-bar habit dies hard! I am not
so sure this is a good move. As one user said, why replace the most
often used key with something that takes the 2 weakest fingers to do
in some awkward move? It is not clear to me, yet, why we even need a
command search tool.

My auto BB key pressing will not die ether after more than 1 month of
use. Do we really need to remap all this? I know it makes logical
senses and might even be better for newbies but do we have proof?
Everything else seems good, IMOHO.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Christopher Cherrett
<stuff at trackingsolutions.ca> wrote:
> Open Source is built on early releases so the community can help to get
> it working.
> http://catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/

Douglas E Knapp

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