[Bf-committers] Composite Nodes vs Sequencer

[Rui Campos]

Hi Chris,

I don't think we will be able to change anything right now, since the
developers have a focus of their own and stick to the original idea, that
the Compositor was meant for 3D stuff.

Anyway, I'm fidling with the code myself and will see if I can come up
with some sort of solution to the problem.


-- Rui --

----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] Composite Nodes vs Sequencer
Date: Mon, April 28, 2008 22:23
From: "Chris Cherrett" <stuff at trackingsolutions.ca>

> Rui Campos wrote:
> > This is just my opinion on what I saw lately with Node(s) in the patch
> > tracker not being added to the Compositor due to some idea that they
> > belong to the sequencer instead, even though the code was good enough for
> > inclusion.
> >
> > I don't really know what is the major idea behind the Compositor and its
> > interaction with the Sequencer, but I do use the Compositor more often
> > than the Sequencer and with live footage, rather then with fancy 3D
stuff.
> >
> > So, in my opinion, the rejected patch to add a Deinterlace Node to the
> > Compositor was a shock to me, since I have to use separate tools to do
> > this and was hoping to have it built-into Blender, to avoid using more
> > tools when I could use just one. (Yes, I did apply the patch on my own
> > compile, but it would make sense for it to be included and supported in
> > future releases)
> >
> > My pipeline is usually the following:
> > - Load the raw footage in the Compositor to do all sort of color
> > corrections and masks and so forth.
> > - Render the result.
> > - Load the result into the sequencer just for fade-in/out and adding
sound.
> > - Render the final solution in PNG.
> > - Convert the material to YUV.
> > - Encode to H.264.
> > - Load into a Matroska container.
> >
> > Basically I use the Compositor for most of the things I need to do,
hell I
> > would just use the Compositor if it had the following:
> > 1. Ability to key the Node values in time (have it show up as a IPO curve
> > would be good).
> > 2. Have an Input Node for Sound.
> > 3. Have an Output Node with Sound, as well as the Composite Output
Node to
> > have a Sound input.
> > 4. Have Histogram, Chroma Vectorscope and Luma Waveform Output Node
viewers.
> > 5. Have all the Sequencer Effects available as Compositor Nodes.
> > 6. Have a Node for if/else sentences based on input values/masks.
> >
> >
> > So, as you can see the Compositor can be used for much more than what it
> > was probably designed for. And with this in mind I would like to say that
> > I find it disappointing to see cool Nodes such as the Deinterlace one
> > being rejected just because the official maintainers don't actually make
> > use of it that way.
> >
> > I appreciate all the development you guys have been doing so far, but
> > don't just reject things on a basis that you don't actually use it or see
> > the use of it.
> >
> > Also, justifying it as "this belongs in the Sequencer" doesn't make much
> > sense to me. In my opinion all Compositor Nodes should be available in
the
> > Sequencer as Effects as well as all Effects in the Sequencer should be
> > available as Compositor Nodes.
> >
> > In the end I would like Blender to be able to load a new "Effect Plugin"
> > and this effect would be available in both the Sequencer and the Node
> > Compositor. I'm sure that the Sequencer and the Compositor can be
adjusted
> > to conform to a similar plugin interface.
> >
> >
> > Well, this is just an opinion that I hope to see cleared out before the
> > release of 2.46.
> >
> >
> > Cheerz,
> >
> > -- Rui --
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> >
> Possibly this could be fixed if the sequencer could be fed into the node
> system?
>
>
>