[Bf-committers] Re: spaceball patch 3688 (beta tester)

[Caronte]

I already tested the Stealth Apprentice patch with an old SpaceBall device
(many and cheap on ebay) and want to say thi's awesome =:o
The feel is like manipulate the objects with your hand, it seems mind
controlled :D and the productivity is increassed because you can work
faster.
When the patch will be finished and we can assign the CTRL, ALT and SHIFT
keys to the device buttons (normal keys already supported), never will need
touch the keyboard for most used blender tools.

Thanks Stealth ;)

P.D: Sorry by my poor english :P

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Nico (Caronte).
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De: bf-committers-bounces at projects.blender.org
[mailto:bf-committers-bounces at projects.blender.org]En nombre de Nathan
Letwory
Enviado el: sábado, 04 de marzo de 2006 8:04
Para: bf-blender developers
Asunto: [listas] Re: [Bf-committers] spaceball patch 3688


If I understood the discussion correctly, the libusb-solution works also
on Windows. I'd see this used rather than a DDK that is not necessarily
compatible with MingW. Anyway, if th SYSWMEVENT works reliable, that would
be very cool, of course.

/Nathan

On La 4.3.2006 0:23, Stealth Apprentice kirjoitti:
> I am considering the HID solution on Windows. My test
> program using the WinDDK shows the device
> successfully.
>
> My question there is that it requires a download of
> the Windows DDK from Microsoft, and I wasn't sure if
> that would be an obstacle for general Windows blender
> developers? The download is free, but I couldn't find
> a download without registering as a developer.
>
> On Linux, the non libusb solution involves something
> like open("fancydevice:") or some such, and then you
> have to deal with X events in the main loop. It's
> easy, but not very portable, and really hard to
> emulate on Windows.
>
> I did a bit of reading on the SDL approach, and came
> across this tidbit:
>
> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/pygame-users/2292374
>
> It appears that for spaceball, it might be possible to
> get the messages using the SYSWMEVENT message. If that
> works, WIndows wouldn't need WinDDK, 3dxware SDK,
> libusb or SDL...
>
> I will test it.
>
>
>
> --- Jean-Luc Peuri�re <jlp at nerim.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Le 3 mars 06 � 21:28, Stealth Apprentice a �crit
> :
>>
>> >
>> > A little research turns up libusb as a
>> cross-platform
>> > method of accessing USB. I've done some testing
>> > libusb-win32, and it can see the device (and my
>> > joysticks, mice, etc)
>> >
>> > libusb is licensed under LGPL.
>> >
>> > Does it sound okay to everyone to pursue a libusb
>> > based solution?
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of using application-side drivers,
>> using the HID and EHCI interfaces. There is native
>> solutions for that on both windows and macosx, at
>> least for the range of input devices that interest
>> us.
>>
>> However as the linux situation is more blurry,
>> perhaps
>> the libusb solution is indeed better. this lib is
>> rather
>> new (but active). I have no idea of its quality.
>>
>> the documentation for it is rather sparse though.
>>
>> last solution is to use the SDL code already present
>> in game
>> engine but this code is limited and
>>
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