[Bf-committers] Meeting Summary May 8th 2005
Gabriel Beloin
gbeloin at caramail.com
Thu May 12 14:15:55 CEST 2005
No one ever complained about dependancy (to my knowledge) with my builds. I'm using gentoo, up to date.
ie. It use glibc 2.3.5.
In a way, it's a bit on the user part to keep a up to date system. Though some distro have different level of up-to-date. I find gentoo to be the middle.
Just a though
> De: Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org>
> A: bf-blender developers <bf-committers at projects.blender.org>
> Objet: Re: [Bf-committers] Meeting Summary May 8th 2005
> Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:00:29 +0200
> Hi,
>
> Since most of people on this list are developers themselves, it might
> be hard to imagine... but really, we got millions of Blender downloads
> the past years, and all of these users just like to have an
> out-of-the-box running binary.
>
> I think it's our task to service Blender users that way. It also
> enables us to support Blender using, since we have a singular release
> binary as a reference. Don't forget that Blender has been growing into
> a very complex application, with library (version) dependencies that
> can easily go wrong. It's not feasible for us anymore to provide &
> guarantee a compile-out-of-the box Blender.
>
> What I'd like to see is someone clearly sorting that out for Linux. In
> the past we've really succesfully created binaries (sometimes two,
> depending glibc) which ran perfect for Linux users. That work consists
> mostly of including several system libraries as static compiled in,
> that's why it can run fine on newer OS upgrades.
>
> -Ton-
>
>
> On 12 May, 2005, at 5:42, Vio wrote:
>
> > Stupid newbie q.: what's the logic behind using chroot in the first
> > place?
> > Last time I used that, about a year or two ago I believe, was for
> > building a LiveCD.
> > So chroot was a must for that job.
> > But you don't *really* need that to build blender, so why not use
> > *any* distro with clearly
> > defined dependencies (ok, on some conservative Debian maybe, to keep
> > update-challenged
> > users (like myself) happy)? Just wondering...
> > -vio
> >
> >
> > D.J. Capelis wrote:
> >
> >>> - we need the chroot file for building the linux releases
> >>> - we also need volunteers for building linux x86
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry I've been away from the IRC channel for so long. I'm surprised
> >> someone
> >> didn't poke me... anyways, never got around to getting back into the
> >> channel.
> >>
> >> Anyways, I have both the original tarball chroot environment from
> >> lonetech from
> >> last release, as well as one where I deleted all the cruft in the
> >> environment. (Man pages, backups of .debs, etc...)
> >>
> >> The original is 513MB with an MD5SUM
> >> of:9cbcd5de12aacb14ae724660857d3e4f
> >> The slimmed-down version is 111MB with and MD5SUM of:
> >> 5df0bf2ebe08d0557b77474a3a9ff451
> >>
> >> Due to space constraints on my server, I'll only be uploading the
> >> smaller one. Anyone who seriously needs the original can contact me
> >> directly. Ton will be
> >> receiving a link to the slimmed down version shortly. He'll either
> >> find a
> >> place to host it more permenently or give them link only to those who
> >> need it
> >> to save some of my bandwidth.
> >>
> >> Furthermore, I'm perfectly happy to help build the releases too. Let
> >> me know
> >> what needs to be done, I've got limited time, but I'll do what I can.
> >>
> >> I guess I should have never left the channel :)
> >>
> >>
> >> ~D.J. Capelis~
> >> Network Security and Cryptography Researcher.
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