[Bf-committers] Armature total mess?

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi Ole,

> away the fun part, I'd prefer BF-tree to be the 'customers/users' one.  
> Means: they can work with a BF-build without any nasty surprises at  
> *any* time. If was strict only confirmed && tested bug fixes and  
> finished && approved new features should go there.

Urm... that "any time" is nearly impossible. Inbetween releases we need  
periods of transitions to new code which can give nasty surprises  
yes... but limited to scheduled work and known risks in advance. The BF  
tree releases should be on 'customers/users' level yes.

Maybe CVS is becoming slowly a bottleneck... I am not proposing a  
switch to Subversion yet, but at some stage in our future it might be  
inevitable?

> Yup.. and sorry but, Ton this goes to you in person:
> I would have felt much more comfortable if softbodies project went to  
> tuhopuu first.

That's a misunderstanding then... I've never asked you to commit it to  
bf-blender? For me it's a very interesting & planned development, but  
it was still ongoing research pending final design for proper  
integration. When all such variables are known, it can be in either  
tree, depending on how it would work best.

We don't really have strict guidelines to define what's OK for  
bf-blender or not... apart from defining per release a couple of  
targets to work on. Probably the scope/impact of some of the current  
projects is so large we have to find different ways to work on it?

-Ton-


>
>> Out of curiousity: do you have any experience with the
>> armature system from the user side of things? While the
>> code is sure hell, I guess if there is a hidden treasure
> Yeah .. come up with a new design .. and all the users ( including me  
> ) will complain about all the things they/we've been able to do.
>> it would be that it allows users to do a lot of cool stuff
>> (although the system looks a bit dated compared to other
>> modern animation systems).
>> Chris
>> P.S. before starting over, perhaps you could send Reevan
>> a mail and ask a few questions?
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> O.K. said above,
> I'd vote for a rewrite of armature code
> I can offer:
> a. some (growing) knowledge of the animation system (code and user  
> wise)
> b. working on a IK solver system supporting 'multi ended / tree like  
> IKs' .. current system *only* allows *2* ended IK chains.
> c. keeping an eye on *true* artists needs versus *true* 'clean' code  
> && data structs/dependancies  .. humm .. there was a little spike on  
> IRC which made me write it like this :)
>
> -Ole-
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