[Bf-committers] Re: Extra Python modules

[William Reynish]

That sounds great Willian, but I agree with the notion
that the extra modules should be included with the
binary. Otherwise, in my oppinion, the main point of
this addition would be lost. It won't make much of a
difference if Blender users need to download python or
another extra add on - it's still an extra download,
and still something that can contribute to confusion.
It should work as "out of the box" as possible. To be
honest, the majority don't bother downloading extra
packages and the like.

I just want to stress this thing. 


-William

PS
Well done! Oh, and can this be included in time for
2.32?





> Message: 2
> From: "Willian Padovani Germano"
> <wgermano@ig.com.br>
> To: <bf-committers@blender.org>
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:13:49 -0200
> Subject: [Bf-committers] Extra Python modules
> Reply-To: bf-committers@blender.org
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As most or all of you know well, some scripts try to
> import modules that
> are not part of Blender and require full Python
> installations.
> 
> Last meeting I mentioned we could compile a Python
> library with more
> builtin modules, but that's not necessary, we can
> use a mix of .py files
> and dynamic libs (.pyd under win) to bundle more
> standard pymodules with
> Blender.
> 
> I made a quick test with Python 2.2.1 and an old
> Publisher 2.25 I have
> under win98, here.  It was not a proper test, but
> showed how this can be
> done.  We just need to put all wanted modules and
> their dependencies
> somewhere where bpython can find them -- e.g.:
> .blender/scripts/ .
> 
> In a zipped file with mere 51k, I got the following
> modules: os, random,
> gzip, StringIO, chunk, plus their non-builtin
> dependencies on windows:
> ntpath, stat, UserDict, types, __future__ and the
> zlib dll.  Only issue
> until now is that the .pyd DLLs must, as expected,
> belong to the same
> Python version linked against Blender.
> 
> Of course, only when Blender changes the Python
> version it links to,
> this extra package would have to be updated, but
> being < 100k, probably
> Ton will prefer it included with the win Blender
> binaries.
> 
> --
> Willian, wgermano@ig.com.br
> 
> =====================================
> 
> BG: when we link Blender with Python, we only get a
> few statically
> linked modules, referenced then as builtin:
> 
> # pycode
> import sys
> print sys.builtin_module_names
> #
> 
> Here for win98 and Python 2.2 this prints:
> 
> ('__builtin__', '__main__', '_codecs', '_hotshot',
> '_locale',
> '_weakref', 'array', 'audioop', 'binascii',
> 'cPickle', 'cStringIO',
> 'cmath', 'errno', 'exceptions', 'gc', 'imageop',
> 'imp', 'marshal',
> 'math', 'md5', 'msvcrt', 'new', 'nt', 'operator',
> 'pcre', 'regex',
> 'rgbimg', 'rotor', 'sha', 'signal', 'strop',
> 'struct', 'sys', 'thread',
> 'time', 'xreadlines', 'xxsubtype')
> 
> For linux the list is much smaller, most modules are
> built as shared,
> since there Python might already be considered a
> standard component.
> Also, some modules are specific to one platform.
> 
> 
> 
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