Let's try another one. Apparently I left a file out of one of the last two patches, and UnNamed pointed out some formatting errors in the other... http://www.soylent-green.com/KnifeSubdiv_rev4.patch and http://www.soylent-green.com/SquareSubd_rev2.patch -- ********************************************************** Robert Wenzlaff rwenzlaff@soylent-green.com