[Bf-committers] Spe: Python IDE for Blender

Sat, 31 May 2003 12:14:35 +0200

Hi Stani,

The Python coders have their own maillist now, I've cc-ed this to them  
as well.
I am not a Python coder or user... so I'll happily leave it to the  
current active team to look at it. At a quick glance, looks quite  
impressive dude! Although I can't oversee the implications or  
dependencies that are introduced here...

-Ton-

On Friday, May 30, 2003, at 18:41 Europe/Amsterdam, Stani Michiels  
wrote:

> I just submitted this as a proposal... (Michel, you can look below)
> As I couldn't get used to the spartanic text Window of Blender, I  
> developped Spe, a Python IDE which can run inside Blender.  It  
> includes many features, such as an interactive shell with  
> autocompletion and so on, a locals browser and a Blender interactive  
> object browser, drag&drop, customizable menus and toolbar buttons, and  
> much more... Since it requires the full Python installation and  
> wxPython, it is more aimed at experienced Python programmers.  It  
> could make the step for them easier to Blender. See screenshot for a  
> quick impression.
>
> This project is written in 100% Python (I even don't know C).  So it  
> doesn't require a special built of Blender.  (Just type:'import  
> spe;spe.main()' and press Alt-P).  I developped it under Windows, but  
> as it uses wxPython it should be portable to Linux & Mac-OSX, to which  
> I don't have access at the moment. The program (at least for Windows)  
> is already quite stable, altough I wanted it tested by some other  
> people before it goes public.
>
> ->QUESTION1:
> I have NO experience with CVS and would kindly appreciate any help on  
> this matter.  It would be very great if somebody would assist me, as  
> I'm quite busy at the moment.
>
> ->QUESTION2:
> Currently it's not possible to run Spe in a separate thread in such a  
> way that Blender is still accessible.  When Spe is active, Blender  
> stays visible (doesn't become black) but doesn't accept any user input  
> until Spe is closed.  Therefore I provided a 'remember' option so that  
> next time Spe is started, it automatically opens the files wich were  
> last open.
>
> Before I also made a package 'blenpy' which integrates existing Python  
> tools to be run from Blender with a nice GUI.  Blenpy requires also  
> the full Python installation but not wxPython, altough it's  
> recommended if you want to have more tools. Blenpy makes it for  
> example possible to run the classic IDLE from within Blender, for  
> which no wxPython is required.
>
> I hope to bring Python and Blender a bit closer with this.
>
> Thanks for any reaction,
>
> Stani
>
> Detailed information
>
> Screenshot Spe: http://stani.host.sk/python/spe.png ()
> Screenshots Blenpy: http://stani.host.sk/python/blenpy.html
>
> Requires:
>    *FULL Python22 installation
>    *wxPython (http://www.wxpython.org/download.php)
>
>
> Features:
>
> Sidebar per file
>    *class/method browser (jump to source)
>    *automatic todo list, highlighting the most important ones (jump to  
> source)
>    *automatic alphabetic index of classes and methods (jump to source)
>    *notes
>
> Tools:
>    *interactive shell
>    *locals browser (left click to open, right click to run)
>    *seperate session recording
>    *quick access to python files in folder and its subfolders (click  
> to open)
>    *unlimited recent file list (left click to open, right click to run)
>    *automatic todo list of all open files, highlighting the most  
> important ones (jump to
>
> source)
>    *automatic alphabetic index of all open files (jump to source)
>
> Python related:
>     *auto-indentation
>     *auto-completion
>     *calltips
>
> Drag & Drop: drop any amount of files or folders...
>    *on main frame to open them
>    *on shell to run them
>    *on recent files to add them
>    *on browser to add folders
>
> General
>    *context help defined everywhere
>    *add your own menus and toolbar buttons
>    *exit & remember:all open files will next time automatically be  
> loaded
>       (handy for Blender sessions)
>    *wxPython gui, so should be cross-platform (Windows,Linux,Mac)
>    *scripts can be executed in different ways:run,run verbose & import
>    *after error jump to line in source code
>
> last but not least...
>
> Blender related:
>     *redraw the Blender screen on idle (no blackout)
>     *load script in Blender Text window
>     *Blender object tree browser (cameras,objects,lamps,...)
>     *add your favorite scripts to the menu
>     *100% Blender compatible:can run within Blender, so all these  
> features are available
>
> within Blender
>
> PS2 By the way...
> I think Blender should be more present in the Python community.  It's  
> strange that there was no announcement of the new Blender release in  
> the Python's mailing list  
> (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF- 
> 8&group=comp.lang.python.announce).
>
> Some questions of Michel:
> >You said it runs inside blender. I assume that you call the  
> application
> from Blender, and it starts in a seperate window?
> Yes, but as I stated before I would like to make Blender and Spe run  
> parallel.
>
> >Is it possible to build blender without (the link to) the new IDE? We
> don't want to force the users to install WxPython when they don't want
> to write scripts.
> Of course, there is no other way.
>
> >How portable is WxPython? I know it runs on Windows and no Linux.
> Blender runs on 4 more platforms (OS-X, Irix, FreeBSD and Solaris).
> See http://www.wxpython.org/download.php
>
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