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    Yea, I don't have a problem with it. I use offset for 99% of the
    bevels I do so no problems there.<br>
    :)<br>
    <br>
    -Andy<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/01/2014 00:22, Howard Trickey
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEZbzg7NG_2u_rCaPhPjt+5R0ps=TagihEnVHvCaE2XStC-LyQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">But do you like the regular bevel using offset as
        the default? That is the question.</div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:57 PM,
          metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com"
              target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Yea, I understand
              your question, mate. :) I was saying that Offset would be
              fine as it would match the regular bevel which is using
              offset as the default.
              <div class="im"><br>
                <br>
                Cheers,<br>
                <br>
                -Andy
                <div>On 04/01/2014 23:35, Howard Trickey wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">I was intending to make it consistent
                      with the tool. The question was whether the
                      <div>tool (and the modifier) should change the
                        default from Offset to Width.<br>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote"> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014
                            at 6:03 PM, metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com"
                                target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I
                                replied to this a few days ago but it
                                got hung in the moderation que so I
                                thought I would post it again<br>
                                <br>
                                I would make it the same as the bevel
                                tool for consistency tbh., so offset
                                would be fine.<br>
                                <br>
                                Is there a web portal for this list on
                                the new site? I much prefer to use those
                                rather than email if possible :)<br>
                                <br>
                                -Andy
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>On 29/12/2013 15:26, Howard
                                      Trickey wrote:<br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">I want to put the
                                        option for how to measure bevel
                                        width (the tool's 'Amount Type')
                                        into the modifier.  Before I do,
                                        I wondered what people think the
                                        default method should be? The
                                        old method (and what is assumed
                                        by models with bevel modifier in
                                        files pre 2.70) is the 'Offset'
                                        method.  I can see the argument
                                        for making the 'Width' method
                                        the default.  Have people here
                                        tried both extensively enough to
                                        have an opinion?
                                        <div> <br>
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                                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun,
                                          Nov 10, 2013 at 7:34 AM,
                                          Howard Trickey <span
                                            dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:howard.trickey@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">howard.trickey@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                            <div dir="ltr">OK, revision
                                              61221 has these changes.
                                               Let's play with them some
                                              before putting them in the
                                              modifier, since that will
                                              affect what is saved in
                                              .blend files.
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                                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at
                                                    5:36 AM, Howard
                                                    Trickey <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:howard.trickey@gmail.com" target="_blank">howard.trickey@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div dir="ltr">If
                                                        there are no
                                                        opinions on my
                                                        suggestions for
                                                        naming methods,
                                                        I think I'm
                                                        going to go with
                                                        them and commit
                                                        the change.
                                                         Reminder: will
                                                        change UI to say
                                                        "Amount "
                                                        instead if
                                                        "Offset", and
                                                        have a dropdown
                                                        type with
                                                        choices:
                                                        <div> Offset</div>
                                                        <div>Width</div>
                                                        <div>Height</div>
                                                        <div>Depth</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>I think I
                                                          will go with
                                                          Offset as the
                                                          default, since
                                                          that is what
                                                          users are used
                                                          to, and
                                                          existing
                                                          models with
                                                          modifiers will
                                                          have been
                                                          using that
                                                          method.  Also
                                                          checked
                                                          Wings3D just
                                                          now and that's
                                                          what it uses
                                                          for its (only)
                                                          method.
                                                           Respond now
                                                          if you think
                                                          we should make
                                                          'Width' the
                                                          default.</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Nov 8,
                                                          2013 at 7:43
                                                          PM,
                                                          metalliandy <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Howard,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">We
                                                          can talk about
                                                          adding
                                                          inset-extrude
                                                          like
                                                          capabilities
                                                          to Bevel later
                                                          (I'm not
                                                          convinced this
                                                          is the right
                                                          place for it
                                                          -- why not in
                                                          the inset tool
                                                          itself?) </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Ahh, I didnt
                                                          mean that we
                                                          add inset
                                                          extrude
                                                          capabilities
                                                          to Bevel. I
                                                          meant that we
                                                          should add the
                                                          interactive 3d
                                                          viewport
                                                          control
                                                          handles that
                                                          were in the
                                                          Inset Extrude
                                                          addon as they
                                                          were super
                                                          intuitive to
                                                          use and much
                                                          better then
                                                          using the tool
                                                          properties.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Modeling/Inset-Extrude"
target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Modeling/Inset-Extrude</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPes27n2pIk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPes27n2pIk</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -Andy
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          08/11/2013
                                                          23:24, Howard
                                                          Trickey wrote:<br>
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                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">We

                                                          can talk about
                                                          adding
                                                          inset-extrude
                                                          like
                                                          capabilities
                                                          to Bevel later
                                                          (I'm not
                                                          convinced this
                                                          is the right
                                                          place for it
                                                          -- why not in
                                                          the inset tool
                                                          itself?)  For
                                                          now I want to
                                                          fix the Bevel
                                                          bugs and make
                                                          it so that
                                                          people will
                                                          stop saying
                                                          "it's just
                                                          broken".  So I
                                                          want to
                                                          concentrate on
                                                          base bevel
                                                          functionality
                                                          first.
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>For names
                                                          of these
                                                          different
                                                          modes, how
                                                          about these:</div>
                                                          <div>Across
                                                          Face ->
                                                          Inset or
                                                          Offset</div>
                                                          <div>Across
                                                          New Face ->
                                                          Width</div>
                                                          <div>Angle
                                                          Bisector ->
                                                          Depth</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Would
                                                          those make
                                                          more sense to
                                                          you Jonathan?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On


                                                          Fri, Nov 8,
                                                          2013 at 5:14
                                                          PM,
                                                          metalliandy <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Yes! That's the one :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -Andy
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          08/11/2013
                                                          21:27,
                                                          Jonathan
                                                          Williamson
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Andy,


                                                          are you
                                                          thinking of
                                                          Inset Extrude
                                                          for the
                                                          interactivity? </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Jonathan


                                                          Williamson
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cgcookie.com" target="_blank">http://cgcookie.com</a></div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On


                                                          Fri, Nov 8,
                                                          2013 at 3:25
                                                          PM,
                                                          metalliandy <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hey guys,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I think the
                                                          main
                                                          requirement
                                                          for a decent
                                                          bevel is that
                                                          by default the
                                                          result would
                                                          be as even as
                                                          possible with
                                                          the same angle
                                                          & width
                                                          being obtained
                                                          wherever
                                                          possible. Hard
                                                          surface
                                                          modelling is
                                                          made much
                                                          harder by
                                                          inconsistent
                                                          bevel widths
                                                          so I would
                                                          vode for the
                                                          'Along New
                                                          Face' option
                                                          too.<br>
                                                          That being
                                                          said current
                                                          functionality
                                                          should be
                                                          retained of
                                                          course as
                                                          flexibility is
                                                          the key to
                                                          robust
                                                          modelling
                                                          tools. :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I would also
                                                          like the
                                                          interactive
                                                          control
                                                          handles in the
                                                          3d viewport
                                                          from the old
                                                          inset script
                                                          to make a
                                                          comeback and
                                                          be added to
                                                          the bevel (and
                                                          inset while we
                                                          are at it ;)
                                                          ), though the
                                                          name of the
                                                          addon alludes
                                                          me atm.
                                                          Perhaps
                                                          Jonathan
                                                          remembers the
                                                          one I mean? If
                                                          not I will
                                                          find it out
                                                          later and post
                                                          it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          For the naming
                                                          I would use
                                                          amount or
                                                          percentage vs
                                                          fraction too.
                                                          I think they
                                                          would make
                                                          much more
                                                          sense to
                                                          artists in
                                                          general. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -Andy
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