<div dir="ltr">But do you like the regular bevel using offset as the default? That is the question.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:57 PM, metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com" target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    Yea, I understand your question, mate. :) I was saying that Offset
    would be fine as it would match the regular bevel which is using
    offset as the default.<div class="im"><br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    <br>
    -Andy
    <div>On 04/01/2014 23:35, Howard Trickey
      wrote:<br>
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    </div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I was intending to make it consistent with the
        tool. The question was whether the
        <div>tool (and the modifier) should change the default from
          Offset to Width.<br>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">
              On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:03 PM, metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com" target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I replied to this
                  a few days ago but it got hung in the moderation que
                  so I thought I would post it again<br>
                  <br>
                  I would make it the same as the bevel tool for
                  consistency tbh., so offset would be fine.<br>
                  <br>
                  Is there a web portal for this list on the new site? I
                  much prefer to use those rather than email if possible
                  :)<br>
                  <br>
                  -Andy
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <div>On 29/12/2013 15:26, Howard Trickey wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">I want to put the option for how
                          to measure bevel width (the tool's 'Amount
                          Type') into the modifier.  Before I do, I
                          wondered what people think the default method
                          should be? The old method (and what is assumed
                          by models with bevel modifier in files pre
                          2.70) is the 'Offset' method.  I can see the
                          argument for making the 'Width' method the
                          default.  Have people here tried both
                          extensively enough to have an opinion?
                          <div> <br>
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                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 10, 2013
                            at 7:34 AM, Howard Trickey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:howard.trickey@gmail.com" target="_blank">howard.trickey@gmail.com</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">OK, revision 61221 has
                                these changes.  Let's play with them
                                some before putting them in the
                                modifier, since that will affect what is
                                saved in .blend files.
                                <div> <br>
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                                <div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov
                                      10, 2013 at 5:36 AM, Howard
                                      Trickey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:howard.trickey@gmail.com" target="_blank">howard.trickey@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">If there are no
                                          opinions on my suggestions for
                                          naming methods, I think I'm
                                          going to go with them and
                                          commit the change.  Reminder:
                                          will change UI to say "Amount
                                          " instead if "Offset", and
                                          have a dropdown type with
                                          choices:
                                          <div> Offset</div>
                                          <div>Width</div>
                                          <div>Height</div>
                                          <div>Depth</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>I think I will go with
                                            Offset as the default, since
                                            that is what users are used
                                            to, and existing models with
                                            modifiers will have been
                                            using that method.  Also
                                            checked Wings3D just now and
                                            that's what it uses for its
                                            (only) method.  Respond now
                                            if you think we should make
                                            'Width' the default.</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:43
                                                PM, metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com" target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                    Hi Howard,
                                                    <div><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <blockquote type="cite">We
                                                        can talk about
                                                        adding
                                                        inset-extrude
                                                        like
                                                        capabilities to
                                                        Bevel later (I'm
                                                        not convinced
                                                        this is the
                                                        right place for
                                                        it -- why not in
                                                        the inset tool
                                                        itself?) </blockquote>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    Ahh, I didnt mean
                                                    that we add inset
                                                    extrude capabilities
                                                    to Bevel. I meant
                                                    that we should add
                                                    the interactive 3d
                                                    viewport control
                                                    handles that were in
                                                    the Inset Extrude
                                                    addon as they were
                                                    super intuitive to
                                                    use and much better
                                                    then using the tool
                                                    properties.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Modeling/Inset-Extrude" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Modeling/Inset-Extrude</a><br>

                                                    <br>
                                                    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPes27n2pIk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPes27n2pIk</a><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Cheers,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    -Andy
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div>On
                                                          08/11/2013
                                                          23:24, Howard
                                                          Trickey wrote:<br>
                                                        </div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">We
                                                          can talk about
                                                          adding
                                                          inset-extrude
                                                          like
                                                          capabilities
                                                          to Bevel later
                                                          (I'm not
                                                          convinced this
                                                          is the right
                                                          place for it
                                                          -- why not in
                                                          the inset tool
                                                          itself?)  For
                                                          now I want to
                                                          fix the Bevel
                                                          bugs and make
                                                          it so that
                                                          people will
                                                          stop saying
                                                          "it's just
                                                          broken".  So I
                                                          want to
                                                          concentrate on
                                                          base bevel
                                                          functionality
                                                          first.
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>For names
                                                          of these
                                                          different
                                                          modes, how
                                                          about these:</div>
                                                          <div>Across
                                                          Face ->
                                                          Inset or
                                                          Offset</div>
                                                          <div>Across
                                                          New Face ->
                                                          Width</div>
                                                          <div>Angle
                                                          Bisector ->
                                                          Depth</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Would
                                                          those make
                                                          more sense to
                                                          you Jonathan?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Nov 8,
                                                          2013 at 5:14
                                                          PM,
                                                          metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com" target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Yes! That's the one :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -Andy
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          08/11/2013
                                                          21:27,
                                                          Jonathan
                                                          Williamson
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Andy,

                                                          are you
                                                          thinking of
                                                          Inset Extrude
                                                          for the
                                                          interactivity? </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Jonathan

                                                          Williamson
                                                          <div><a href="http://cgcookie.com" target="_blank">http://cgcookie.com</a></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Fri, Nov 8,
                                                          2013 at 3:25
                                                          PM,
                                                          metalliandy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:metalliandy666@googlemail.com" target="_blank">metalliandy666@googlemail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hey guys,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I think the
                                                          main
                                                          requirement
                                                          for a decent
                                                          bevel is that
                                                          by default the
                                                          result would
                                                          be as even as
                                                          possible with
                                                          the same angle
                                                          & width
                                                          being obtained
                                                          wherever
                                                          possible. Hard
                                                          surface
                                                          modelling is
                                                          made much
                                                          harder by
                                                          inconsistent
                                                          bevel widths
                                                          so I would
                                                          vode for the
                                                          'Along New
                                                          Face' option
                                                          too.<br>
                                                          That being
                                                          said current
                                                          functionality
                                                          should be
                                                          retained of
                                                          course as
                                                          flexibility is
                                                          the key to
                                                          robust
                                                          modelling
                                                          tools. :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I would also
                                                          like the
                                                          interactive
                                                          control
                                                          handles in the
                                                          3d viewport
                                                          from the old
                                                          inset script
                                                          to make a
                                                          comeback and
                                                          be added to
                                                          the bevel (and
                                                          inset while we
                                                          are at it ;)
                                                          ), though the
                                                          name of the
                                                          addon alludes
                                                          me atm.
                                                          Perhaps
                                                          Jonathan
                                                          remembers the
                                                          one I mean? If
                                                          not I will
                                                          find it out
                                                          later and post
                                                          it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          For the naming
                                                          I would use
                                                          amount or
                                                          percentage vs
                                                          fraction too.
                                                          I think they
                                                          would make
                                                          much more
                                                          sense to
                                                          artists in
                                                          general. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -Andy
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