<div dir="ltr">It's not about making something 'look more mature' to developers,
though. if the BGE can't compete on features and ease of use, why drag
it along? Mind you, I believe there's a future in the BGE for viewport
visualisation, but as an actual engine I believe it's been superseded by
much more mature engines, that work wonderfully (out of the box!) with
Blender besides.<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/michaelknubben/">http://flickr.com/photos/michaelknubben/</a></div>
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1. HTML 5 exporter from BGE (Jacob Merrill)<br>
2. Re: HTML 5 exporter from BGE (Dalai Felinto)<br>
3. Re: HTML 5 exporter from BGE (Jacob Merrill)<br>
4. Re: HTML 5 exporter from BGE (Dalai Felinto)<br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:14:09 -0700<br>
From: Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Bf-gamedev] HTML 5 exporter from BGE<br>
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I have seen a plugin called Burster that allows blender games to run in a<br>
browser,<br>
<br>
If I am correct in assuming the most of the next gen smartphones run html<br>
5, and could support such a plugin, it would mean that a blender game could<br>
be published to run on a IOS, android etc platform.<br>
<br>
Is this at all feasible?<br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:27:55 -0300<br>
From: Dalai Felinto <<a href="mailto:dfelinto@gmail.com">dfelinto@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-gamedev] HTML 5 exporter from BGE<br>
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Hi Jacob,<br>
<br>
Burster does not run on html5 (where did you get that idea from?).<br>
It's basically a Blenderplayer wrapped in a plugin structure.<br>
<br>
In other words, Burster itself brings Blender no further into the mobile<br>
platforms.<br>
That said, there is an old gsoc project that got Blender rudimentary<br>
running in Android.<br>
<br>
It's currently on hold, but it seemed feasible from the look of it (it<br>
involves first to port all Blender code to OpenGLES, to be compatible with<br>
the mobile hardware).<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Dalai<br>
--<br>
<a href="http://blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto" target="_blank">blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto</a><br>
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2013/9/24 Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> I have seen a plugin called Burster that allows blender games to run in a<br>
> browser,<br>
><br>
> If I am correct in assuming the most of the next gen smartphones run html<br>
> 5, and could support such a plugin, it would mean that a blender game could<br>
> be published to run on a IOS, android etc platform.<br>
><br>
> Is this at all feasible?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 14:40:39 -0700<br>
From: Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-gamedev] HTML 5 exporter from BGE<br>
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Ahh, for some reason I was under the impression that burster used webGL and<br>
HTML5....<br>
<br>
I see,<br>
<br>
About the feasibility of the resurrection of the port for android,<br>
is there any interest from the community for such a feature?<br>
<br>
Another question, would it not increase the exposure of the BGE, as well as<br>
make it look much more mature to developers?<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dalai Felinto <<a href="mailto:dfelinto@gmail.com">dfelinto@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Jacob,<br>
><br>
> Burster does not run on html5 (where did you get that idea from?).<br>
> It's basically a Blenderplayer wrapped in a plugin structure.<br>
><br>
> In other words, Burster itself brings Blender no further into the mobile<br>
> platforms.<br>
> That said, there is an old gsoc project that got Blender rudimentary<br>
> running in Android.<br>
><br>
> It's currently on hold, but it seemed feasible from the look of it (it<br>
> involves first to port all Blender code to OpenGLES, to be compatible with<br>
> the mobile hardware).<br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Dalai<br>
> --<br>
> <a href="http://blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto" target="_blank">blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.dalaifelinto.com" target="_blank">www.dalaifelinto.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/9/24 Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
>> I have seen a plugin called Burster that allows blender games to run in a<br>
>> browser,<br>
>><br>
>> If I am correct in assuming the most of the next gen smartphones run html<br>
>> 5, and could support such a plugin, it would mean that a blender game could<br>
>> be published to run on a IOS, android etc platform.<br>
>><br>
>> Is this at all feasible?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:45:40 -0300<br>
From: Dalai Felinto <<a href="mailto:dfelinto@gmail.com">dfelinto@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-gamedev] HTML 5 exporter from BGE<br>
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> About the feasibility of the resurrection of the port for android, is<br>
there any interest from the community for such a feature?<br>
<br>
Definitively. But unless you are considering to step up and join the<br>
development team (which you should by the way ;), I'm afraid this is a<br>
project we will all have to wait for.<br>
<br>
> Another question, would it not increase the exposure of the BGE, as well<br>
as make it look much more mature to developers?<br>
<br>
Sure, but was that ever enough for something to get into Blender? I can<br>
think of a few (lots actually) of features that fall into that same<br>
description and unfortunately don't get into Blender for the lack of coders<br>
or because there are other priorities (as far as allocating Blender<br>
Foundation funded developers go, as I said, there is nothing stop someone<br>
from picking up where it was left).<br>
<br>
It's good to remember that the main BGE development is currently relying on<br>
the contribution of coders and users in their spare time.<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Dalai<br>
<br>
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2013/9/24 Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Ahh, for some reason I was under the impression that burster used webGL<br>
> and HTML5....<br>
><br>
> I see,<br>
><br>
> About the feasibility of the resurrection of the port for android,<br>
> is there any interest from the community for such a feature?<br>
><br>
> Another question, would it not increase the exposure of the BGE, as well as<br>
> make it look much more mature to developers?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dalai Felinto <<a href="mailto:dfelinto@gmail.com">dfelinto@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi Jacob,<br>
>><br>
>> Burster does not run on html5 (where did you get that idea from?).<br>
>> It's basically a Blenderplayer wrapped in a plugin structure.<br>
>><br>
>> In other words, Burster itself brings Blender no further into the mobile<br>
>> platforms.<br>
>> That said, there is an old gsoc project that got Blender rudimentary<br>
>> running in Android.<br>
>><br>
>> It's currently on hold, but it seemed feasible from the look of it (it<br>
>> involves first to port all Blender code to OpenGLES, to be compatible with<br>
>> the mobile hardware).<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>> Dalai<br>
>> --<br>
>> <a href="http://blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto" target="_blank">blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.dalaifelinto.com" target="_blank">www.dalaifelinto.com</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2013/9/24 Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>>> I have seen a plugin called Burster that allows blender games to run<br>
>>> in a browser,<br>
>>><br>
>>> If I am correct in assuming the most of the next gen smartphones run<br>
>>> html 5, and could support such a plugin, it would mean that a blender game<br>
>>> could be published to run on a IOS, android etc platform.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Is this at all feasible?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Bf-gamedev mailing list<br>
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>>><br>
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From: Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-gamedev] HTML 5 exporter from BGE<br>
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I would love to, I need to finish wrectified (my current project) and then<br>
I will start looking under the hood :D<br>
<br>
I have come along way in learning coding thanks to the BGE,<br>
and would love to return the favor.<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Dalai Felinto <<a href="mailto:dfelinto@gmail.com">dfelinto@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> > About the feasibility of the resurrection of the port for android, is<br>
> there any interest from the community for such a feature?<br>
><br>
> Definitively. But unless you are considering to step up and join the<br>
> development team (which you should by the way ;), I'm afraid this is a<br>
> project we will all have to wait for.<br>
><br>
> > Another question, would it not increase the exposure of the BGE, as well<br>
> as make it look much more mature to developers?<br>
><br>
> Sure, but was that ever enough for something to get into Blender? I can<br>
> think of a few (lots actually) of features that fall into that same<br>
> description and unfortunately don't get into Blender for the lack of coders<br>
> or because there are other priorities (as far as allocating Blender<br>
> Foundation funded developers go, as I said, there is nothing stop someone<br>
> from picking up where it was left).<br>
><br>
> It's good to remember that the main BGE development is currently relying<br>
> on the contribution of coders and users in their spare time.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Dalai<br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> <a href="http://blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto" target="_blank">blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.dalaifelinto.com" target="_blank">www.dalaifelinto.com</a><br>
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> 2013/9/24 Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
>> Ahh, for some reason I was under the impression that burster used webGL<br>
>> and HTML5....<br>
>><br>
>> I see,<br>
>><br>
>> About the feasibility of the resurrection of the port for android,<br>
>> is there any interest from the community for such a feature?<br>
>><br>
>> Another question, would it not increase the exposure of the BGE, as well<br>
>> as<br>
>> make it look much more mature to developers?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Dalai Felinto <<a href="mailto:dfelinto@gmail.com">dfelinto@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi Jacob,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Burster does not run on html5 (where did you get that idea from?).<br>
>>> It's basically a Blenderplayer wrapped in a plugin structure.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In other words, Burster itself brings Blender no further into the mobile<br>
>>> platforms.<br>
>>> That said, there is an old gsoc project that got Blender rudimentary<br>
>>> running in Android.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It's currently on hold, but it seemed feasible from the look of it (it<br>
>>> involves first to port all Blender code to OpenGLES, to be compatible with<br>
>>> the mobile hardware).<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>> Dalai<br>
>>> --<br>
>>> <a href="http://blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto" target="_blank">blendernetwork.org/dalai-felinto</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.dalaifelinto.com" target="_blank">www.dalaifelinto.com</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2013/9/24 Jacob Merrill <<a href="mailto:blueprintrandom1@gmail.com">blueprintrandom1@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> I have seen a plugin called Burster that allows blender games to run<br>
>>>> in a browser,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If I am correct in assuming the most of the next gen smartphones run<br>
>>>> html 5, and could support such a plugin, it would mean that a blender game<br>
>>>> could be published to run on a IOS, android etc platform.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Is this at all feasible?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>> Bf-gamedev mailing list<br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:Bf-gamedev@blender.org">Bf-gamedev@blender.org</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-gamedev" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-gamedev</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
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