<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">The improvements you suggested are not bad.<br>The network neighbourhood is a must-have. I didn't know it did not work in windows.<br>As for the fonts, I saw something was in program for Google' SummerOfCode 2007 (<a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/BlenderDev/GSOC_2007_Ideas">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/BlenderDev/GSOC_2007_Ideas</a> end of the page, section "Other"), but I don't think it has been overtaken by anybody.<br>The font loading and preview would be good (really good if with real time scene updating), but it has to be carefully thought.<br>Maybe Blender should continue to give the possibility of loading fonts from other directories, and not to load "system fonts" at all.<br>Q: Does Blender
save the used fonts inside the .blend file? (I mean, if you use a font, save the scene and open it on a computer without the font, does it work?)<br>If so it should only save the actually used fonts of course.<br><br>See you,<br>Ale<br><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Flįvio Cardoso Ferreira Pontes <flaviocpontes@gmail.com><br><br>
I concur.<br><br>I don't think blender should use OS file browsers, but I do think the<br>file browser should use the OS services, like, as i said before, the<br>Network Neighbourhood in windows.<br><br>The other thing I'd like to see is the font browsing by the typeface<br>name in the text object and browsing plugins by name too, not opening a<br>file browser everytime I have to choose a plugin or font.<br><br>I'm an ubuntu user at home and these things really don't annoy me much,<br>but I'm trying to advocate blender at work, where we use windows(argh!)<br>in a networked environment, and these little annoyances drive the other<br>designers away. Even if the workflow is WAY superior than 3dsmax<br>(vanille, mind you. None of the cool plugins), the tool we use there,<br>people tend to simply run away if some of the things they're used to<br>simply don't work.<br><br>Maybe the creation of a Asset Browser window with thumbnails, animated<br>thumbnails (ą
la combustion), font names instead of the file names...<br><br>So, these are my requests:<br><br>- better asset browsing by font name;<br><br>- better plugin browsing;<br><br>- Windows Network Neighbourhood integrantion in the file browser.<br><br>Flįvio.<br><br><br>Em Sex, 2007-11-16 ąs 13:12 +1300, Doug Ollivier escreveu:<br>> I agree with the idea of having Full screen open on the File browser <br>> window in all situations(if the file browser has been launched from
an <br>> interface button, not from the drop-down menu which allows you to <br>> data-browse).<br>> <br>> I also agree with the below. Importing supported filetypes is a
really <br>> big one and would make the import menu virtually obselete (freeing up
<br>> clutter).<br>> <br>> As for native file browser, I remember a coder making this for their
own <br>> use (basse perhaps?). I also would like to point to Adobe products <br>> which have a little "switch to OS dialogue" and "switch to Adobe <br>> dialogue" toggle so that users can choose.<br>> <br>> Sorry if this is a little off-topic from the original<br>> <br>> Doug Ollivier<br>> <br>> Jason van Gumster wrote:<br>> > For the record, I agree with all of these things (particularly
having<br>> > the console in Blender's view; that would be quite nice). Most of
them<br>> > (aside from the console) appear to be things "around" Blender,
rather<br>> > than in its interface. In this way, Blender can play nice with the<br>> > native OS, but still keep cross-platform benefits. That's
something I'm<br>> > definitely in favor of. My comments were specifically targeted at
the<br>> > suggestion to use the native OS's file browser. That's something I<br>> > don't really agree with.<br>> ><br>> > -Fweeb<br>> ><br>> > "Campbell Barton" <<a ymailto="mailto:ideasman42@gmail.com" href="mailto:ideasman42@gmail.com">ideasman42@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > <br>> >> Id really like to see better OS integration, spesificlly<br>> >> - An easy way to manage scripts on linux (and os X aparently) - At
the<br>> >> moment many many script bug reports are due to users running old<br>> >> scripts or a mixture of old/new. If it worked like windows where
by<br>> >> default it used scripts in the subdirectory this would be ideal
IMHO.<br>> >><br>> >> - Better freedesktop (linux/solaris/bsd) support - so when you
install<br>> >> blender, double clicking on a blend file loads it with blender.<br>> >> installing could also add a blender.desktop file.<br>> >> - Support for blender loading other 3d formats on double click -<br>> >> dxf/obj/3ds etc...<br>> >> - Review patch to have a console in blenders view. (having a
separate<br>> >> console is not that normal at the moment some important error
messages<br>> >> use this)<br>> >> - Move errors out of the console - Have some way to notify users
when<br>> >> linked libs dont load, or when files are missing, at the moment
its<br>> >> only printed in the console.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> On Nov 15, 2007 8:29 PM, Jason van Gumster <<a ymailto="mailto:flaw@misaligned.net" href="mailto:flaw@misaligned.net">flaw@misaligned.net</a>><br>> >> wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >>> I disagree. One thing I really like about Blender is that it's<br>> >>> consistent across all platforms. Whether I'm using it in Linux,
on<br>> >>> Windows, on a Mac, or even my mobile phone, Blender is still the<br>> >>> same Blender it always is. It's simple, effective, and
consistent<br>> >>> (and it has nice thumbnail images in SVN right now). Granted,
it's<br>> >>> not perfect, but I think there are definitely good reasons for<br>> >>> keeping it as is.<br>> >>><br>> >>> For those occasions where the file browsers open in a narrow
window,<br>> >>> I'll either ESC to another window or simply SHIFT+SPACE to
maximize<br>> >>> that window; so it's really a non-issue for me. Though, perhaps,
as<br>> >>> someone else mentioned, going to full screen should be the
default<br>> >>> behavior.<br>> >>><br>> >>> -Fweeb<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Alessandro Preziosi <<a ymailto="mailto:lsnpreziosi@yahoo.com" href="mailto:lsnpreziosi@yahoo.com">lsnpreziosi@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>> <br>> >>>> I know what you mean, and I think you're right.<br>> >>>> It would only take blender to use the standard OS window for<br>> >>>> operations like Open and Save. Anyway I think there's a reason
why<br>> >>>> they made the "OPEN view" inside blender itself, like the other<br>> >>>> panels, but I don't understand it. Personally I don't like it,
I'd<br>> >>>> prefer the "native" OS window with its icons, previews and its<br>> >>>> intuitiveness. If there aren't good reasons to keep it as it is,<br>> >>>> let's change it!<br>> >>>><br>> >>>><br>> >>>><br>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----<br>> >>>> From: Flįvio Cardoso Ferreira Pontes <<a ymailto="mailto:flaviocpontes@gmail.com" href="mailto:flaviocpontes@gmail.com">flaviocpontes@gmail.com</a>><br>> >>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:bf-funboard@blender.org" href="mailto:bf-funboard@blender.org">bf-funboard@blender.org</a><br>> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:53:43 AM<br>> >>>> Subject: [Bf-funboard] O.S. Integration and better plugin
browser<br>> >>>><br>> >>>><br>> >>>> What I would really like to see in blender is better integration<br>> >>>> with the underlying O.S.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> For instance, I would like to see the Network Neighborhood in
the<br>> >>>> file browser window, a proper list of fonts in the text object.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> As a designer, I find it annoying to browse the fonts by<br>> >>>> filename...<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> That's my wish... ;-)<br>> >>>> <br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> Bf-funboard mailing list<br>> >>> <a ymailto="mailto:Bf-funboard@blender.org" href="mailto:Bf-funboard@blender.org">Bf-funboard@blender.org</a><br>> >>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-funboard" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-funboard</a><br>> >>><br>> >>> <br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> Bf-funboard mailing list<br>> >> <a
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