<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/3/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Bassam Kurdali</b> <<a href="mailto:bkurdali@freefactory.org">bkurdali@freefactory.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
wait a second- is it my imagination, or is shift-ctrl still available?<br>perhaps we can make shift-ctrl-mousewheel do this behavior?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>ctrl-shift-mousewheel? sounds strange :D<br>
but another idea behind my idea is that the user actually doesn't
have to use the keyboard. just use his mouse. (e.g. if he sits in front
of his pc with a hot cup of tea and wants to browse through his 3d
scene, he only needs one hand for this, and still can drink his tea)<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> This is either good candidate for a user pref or (better) different
<br>> interface/mode- I'd suggest using modifier+ mousewheel, but they're all<br>> taken (not you Doug). Perhaps if we use the "cursor" transform center,<br>> this could be made to apply to the view transforms too? (might be
<br>> annoying too)<br>></blockquote><div><br></div><div>what view transformations? and, i only want it to be dependent of *mouse*
position, not of cursor position. repositioning the cursor is one extra
click again, and that slows down, for my concerns at least. (like you said in your next paragraph)<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> There are good arguments for both behaviors- for instance, sometimes a<br>> user doesn't care where the 3D cursor is- they really just want to zoom<br>> in, not zoom and pan; having to place the 3d cursor would be an annoying
<br>> extra step. Add that to the fact that sometimes the view location/angle<br>> is "useful information" that you don't want to loose.<br>></blockquote><div><br> view angel doesn't change, with zooming and panning, right? but location does, that's true.
<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> The argument *for* the proposed change is a good one too, I just don't
<br>> see this as an exclusive win. If we're only going to do one and not the<br>> other, keeping the current behavior is better IMO as it is most<br>> natural/least surprising.<br>><br>><br>><br>> On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 23:05 +0200, Knittl wrote:
<br>> > yes, that's the main problem. it will irritate people who are used to<br>> > the current system. initially I didn't want to talk about userprefs,<br>> > but it would be the only solution to please "blender-conservatives"
<br>> > and "blender-liberals". the ones don't want to change their imprinted<br>> > workflow, whereas others are open to new ideas and welcome them.<br>> > and it's really a core feature of blender, that *everyone* uses
<br>> > evertime.<br>> ><br>> > regards<br>> ><br>> > On 4/3/07, Alexander Ewering <<a href="mailto:blender@instinctive.de">blender@instinctive.de</a>> wrote:<br>> ><br>> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, [iso-8859-1] doug wrote:
<br>> ><br>> > > Yes this is a great idea IMO. it really does stop you<br>> > needing to do a<br>> > > second command/movement to pan the screen. and you can<br>> > quickly
<br>> > > scrollwheel in and out to reposition your screen.<br>> > ><br>> > > I suggested it a while ago, and the response then was that<br>> > it is<br>> > > confusing, and some people preffered it how blender does
<br>> > it. Althought<br>> > > everyone thinks its evil to have user prefs..... i think<br>> > this is something<br>> ><br>> > Not everyone. I always thought of this hostility against
<br>> > userprefs as<br>> > arrogance and disregard for the wishes and personal<br>> > preferences of users,<br>> > which are so varied that not even a perfect application made
<br>> > by God Himself<br>> > could serve them all.<br>> ><br>> > | alexander ewering instinctive mediaworks<br>> > | <a href="http://xx-mail.com/instinctive">
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