<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On 20/03/2007, at 10:31 PM, Roland Hess wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Lucida Grande">I disagree that it's moot, and that simply allowing users to make a patchwork of their keyboards is the silver bullet for issues like this. It is EXACTLY things like this that need to be considered in any overall address of the UI. How are people really using Blender? How well does that fit with the current UI? How should the UI change to better fit the way that people use the tools?</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 12.0px Lucida Grande; min-height: 15.0px"><BR></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Lucida Grande" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Lucida Grande">I'm "rah rah!" for divorcing event handling from the line-by-line code, but it's not going to solve any of these problems by itself.</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>The thing that customisable keys will allow though, is an updating and re-addressing of the default keyboard layout too, which of course was designed for the toolset of 10 years ago. If things are customisable, then you're a lot more free to change the default layout, while providing an 'old-school' preset for backwards compatibility for people who are worried about losing muscle memory. That's why I haven't been too keen on the piecemeal changing of hotkeys over releases, I'd rather see it all happen together if/when we ever get these capabilities.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Of course, maybe once it's done, some UI democracy can take place -- people can come up with what they think are good schemes, and then bribe prominent artists to start using and hawking their keyboard maps!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Indeed, perhaps this is best done as a step by step thing, like : Allow customisability for one release without changing the defaults -> encourage people to make and share their own presets -> use that information to inform a renewal in the next release afterwards. This method seems to have worked pretty well with the icon files.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>cheers</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Matt</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Lucida Grande; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV>Matt Ebb . matt@mke3.net . <A href="http://mke3.net">http://mke3.net</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>