[Bf-funboard] Edit mode to Object mode switching

[Roger]

Thank you Roland and Campbell

I am impressed with Roland's Interface Creation Proposal and would add that
consideration be given to tablet and stylus in preference to mouse and keyboard
in the immediate rather than distant future.

One of my daughters is doing an intensive Biological  art degree (an artist for
25 years) and the other as you know, Games design technology. (graphics design
10 years). I have been doing solid modeling for 15 years.
Both use graphics tablets exclusively, they say its old fashioned to use mouse
and keyboard.
I haven't  because Fedora 8 doesn't like Intuous tablets.

They both use the visual tablet at uni, where the monitor and tablet are
combined, this is a favorite for games designers and graphic artists whom they
work with.

This is why I thew in the comment below.

Watching my daughter using her applications I simply don't understand the comment:
>> I still don't think double click for anything in production is good.
I got so used to double click facility when using TurboCad Professional a few
years ago.
Double click in Scribus works for me.

Agreed. Professional apps don't use double click, they have complicated the over
the years. it drives my daughter potty and she inevitably resorts to Blender to
get a job done.

  >As a professional graphics app user of many years
> (like, 15), I can tell you that none of the major apps I use for
> production work use the double-click.
Ok but haven't there been many times you thought "I wish they did it this or
that way"? Its like boiling a frog in water, one get's used to it.
Over probably the same number of years we have used those apps and they never
get better, just more complex menu /dialog systems.

Whats the problem if a wanker breaks the (his own) system. Simply reinstall or
grab the default settings file and their problem goes away, it shouldn't affect
anyone else and such breaks would be dissected by the group as is this double
click proposal. I don't see it as a G/I responsibility.

Roger


Roland Hess wrote:
> Okay, this is the only good point on the "pro double click" side I've 
> seen so far in the whole discussion:
>> Eventually Blender work will be mostly graphics tablet and stylus which will 
>> make it either way ahead of proprietary applications or way behind if they do it 
>> first. Then it will have to be point and tap, no more moving to the edge to select 
>> menus. dialogs, etc or hot keys.
> With this in mind, though, I still don't think double click for anything 
> in production is good. As a professional graphics app user of many years 
> (like, 15), I can tell you that none of the major apps I use for 
> production work use the double-click. If we're going to start thinking 
> about people using a pen tablet (or tablet pc) exclusively, though, 
> we're going to need to revisit the interaction paradigm altogether. How 
> best to work with a tablet? How are other apps doing it? Where do they 
> fail and where do they succeed? Maybe it will turn out that double-click 
> (or double-tap?) is one solution in that toolbox.
> 
> What's nice is that the current event refactor will allow us to create a 
> really optimized experience for people who use the traditional method 
> (keyboard+mouse), as well as one for people who want to work exclusively 
> with a tablet. Also, it's one of the reasons that something like my 
> interface tools proposal should see some light before work begins on 
> that side of things -- we need to open up interface configuration and 
> design in a practical way to the user community, and not just to coders. 
> I'm not suggesting that any wanker who downloads Blender should be able 
> to hack the interface right away -- but it needs to be accessible for 
> experienced users who know how they work and want to bend the UI to 
> their will.
> 
> Speaking of which, I just realized that I ought to post that whole thing 
> here, so, coming soon...
>