[Bf-funboard] selected/active/colours/etc.

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi,

On another note... many colors as being used in Blender stem from the  
NeoGeo period, back to when we even used Amiga! The predecessor of  
Blender had to draw 3D in a 16-color (colormap) screen.

As times passed by, and more features were added, I just built on the  
old conventions we used internally. Some decisions were conscious,  
others were just done to get something ready.

As for the UI make-over, it's very welcome to re-evaluate this part of  
the Blender interface, clean up the inconsequences, and come with a new  
proposal that allows new development as well.

Let's try to move on to design proposals...

-Ton-


On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 13:47 Europe/Amsterdam, Ton Roosendaal  
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The object center-icon and lamp-icon are exceptional, I fully agree  
> with that. I never intended that it *had* meaning. It's fully open to  
> change & improve.
>
> Weird how perception works here... I don't consciously notice the  
> Object icons color. :)
>
> -Ton-
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, Sep 30, 2003, at 12:53 Europe/Amsterdam, Matt Ebb wrote:
>
>>
>>> Do you mean the tiny object center... the color of that one has no
>>> meaning yes.
>>> But you're hardly aware of that... I made it yellow just to make it
>>> stand out among the black wires...
>>
>> But it *does* have a meaning - it means unselected, since it's  
>> contrasted
>> with the pink of selected. When you select an object it turns pink,  
>> when
>> it's deselected it's yellow. Whether or not this meaning is intended  
>> or not,
>> it's there. It's used for lamps (in this case, it's not just the  
>> center
>> point either), cameras, empties, and all sorts of other objects  
>> whether
>> their obData is editable or not. It's also now used to indicate  
>> 'selected
>> edge' for meshes.
>>
>>> I still don't understand where yellow is 're-used'....
>>
>> Yellow is also re-used to indicate selection in the Ipo editor (keys,  
>> and in
>> the control points of ipo curves), in the Action editor/NLA editor,  
>> and in
>> Image/UV editor. In these cases, yellow is used to mean 'selected'  
>> rather
>> than 'deselected' (which is confusing), but it still continues the  
>> idea of
>> it being to do with a selection state rather than representing the  
>> hierarchy
>> of objects/obData/etc.
>>
>> Now whether this is just a co-incidence or made that way just to  
>> stand out
>> from the black wireframes or not doesn't really matter. It's  
>> reinforced so
>> much throughout Blender that users will think it's to do with  
>> selection
>> anyway - that's the impression that's being given.
>>
>> Perhaps there wouldn't be so much emphasis on the idea of color =  
>> selection
>> if there were other things that indicated selection too (other  
>> programs
>> stick manipulators on selected objects, etc.). However in Blender,  
>> colour is
>> the only thing that visualises selection state. The idea of
>> selection/deselection is much more immediate to artists than the  
>> structure
>> of the data in Blender, so naturally people will associate colour =
>> selection.
>>
>> Maybe this is just me - I've *always* understood colour in Blender to
>> represent selection states, and not of the structure of the data.  
>> What about
>> other users on this list?
>>
>> Matt
>>
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