[Bf-funboard] solid wee need ya back soon

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	Well put. TrueSpace is great for getting started in 3D (It's what I
started with). But like the original BASIC interpreters, it warps the =
user's
view on how things should be done, and is not easy to get something big
done.

	I have to admit though, The gameBlender engine needs allot of work
before we will be able to make the next version of Splinter Cell in it.


		Timothy Baldridge

-----Original Message-----
From: Ton Roosendaal [mailto:ton@blender.org]
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:26 PM
To: bf-funboard@blender.org
Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] solid wee need ya back soon


Hi,

Most important, learn to see through the marketing blahblah of such =20
press releases. I've been involved with making such texts before, so I  =

know! :)
By default the companies try to mask their weak points, suggest a lot =20
more than actually is said, and exaggerate things enormously.

Here a few examples from the press release:

"gameSpace provides everything needed for start to finish game content  =
=20
   creation."

  -> You can make models and characters for games with with it.

"enabling them to very quickly create stunning, professional-level =20
graphics"

  -> Attracting mediocre artists... because *now* they can!

"The immersive first-person-perspective environment will be instantly =20
familiar to game players,"

  -> Truespace only has one 3d window.

=93This is what the independent game developer=92s community has been =20
waiting for"

  -> Caligari desperately seeks a new market.

And finally the obligatory quote:
=93No one wants to trade off power for price,=94 said Roman Ormandy, =20
founder and president of Caligari. =93You shouldn=92t have to cobble =20
together a bunch of shareware products or fight your way through a =20
hard-to-learn interface."

  -> argh, Blender is taking away our marketshare!

-Ton-


On Monday, Sep 8, 2003, at 17:56 Europe/Amsterdam, car wrote:

>
>
> True space is building an engine
> http://insidecg.com/news.php?id=3D864
>
> Please but date Solid when you can, at . At least the very first =20
> minute it is available
>
>
>
> ^v^
>
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<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>Well put. =
TrueSpace is great for getting started in 3D (It's what I started =
with). But like the original BASIC interpreters, it warps the user's =
view on how things should be done, and is not easy to get something big =
done.</FONT></P>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>I have to =
admit though, The gameBlender engine needs allot of work before we will =
be able to make the next version of Splinter Cell in it.</FONT></P>
<BR>

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT SIZE=3D2>Timothy =
Baldridge</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Ton Roosendaal [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:ton@blender.org">mailto:ton@blender.org</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:26 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: bf-funboard@blender.org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [Bf-funboard] solid wee need ya back =
soon</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hi,</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Most important, learn to see through the marketing =
blahblah of such&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>press releases. I've been involved with making such =
texts before, so I&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>know! :)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>By default the companies try to mask their weak =
points, suggest a lot&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>more than actually is said, and exaggerate things =
enormously.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Here a few examples from the press release:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;gameSpace provides everything needed for start =
to finish game content&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; creation.&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; -&gt; You can make models and characters for =
games with with it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;enabling them to very quickly create stunning, =
professional-level&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>graphics&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; -&gt; Attracting mediocre artists... because =
*now* they can!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&quot;The immersive first-person-perspective =
environment will be instantly&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>familiar to game players,&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; -&gt; Truespace only has one 3d window.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>=93This is what the independent game developer=92s =
community has been&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>waiting for&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; -&gt; Caligari desperately seeks a new =
market.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>And finally the obligatory quote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>=93No one wants to trade off power for price,=94 =
said Roman Ormandy,&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>founder and president of Caligari. =93You =
shouldn=92t have to cobble&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>together a bunch of shareware products or fight your =
way through a&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>hard-to-learn interface.&quot;</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; -&gt; argh, Blender is taking away our =
marketshare!</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-Ton-</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Monday, Sep 8, 2003, at 17:56 Europe/Amsterdam, =
car wrote:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; True space is building an engine</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://insidecg.com/news.php?id=3D864" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://insidecg.com/news.php?id=3D864</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Please but date Solid when you can, at . At =
least the very first&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; minute it is available</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ^v^</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =
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