[Bf-funboard] Very humble suggestion

[Ton Roosendaal]

Hi,

It's not that we ignore suggestions... but it is also not good to do  
all of this ad-hoc when someone mentions it. In the past weeks there  
were a lot of discussions on proper wording for the UI. We definitely  
can work on some iprovement here. However, the matter is complex and  
easily goes into personal opinions and 'taste' and conventions... the  
only way to bypass that is with a well balanced proposal, providing  
coherent guidelines for what good naming is, and what exactly will need  
to change. If such a proposal gives a good big picture, it's much  
easier to decide on individual cases.

In Blender land, the 'grabber' is just part of ancient history. The  
name comes from Sculpt3d on Amiga, the first real modeler I ever used.

-Ton-


On Wednesday, Oct 29, 2003, at 18:05 Europe/Amsterdam, William Reynish  
wrote:

> Why don't you just please welcome a suggestion? I know
> that people probably WILL find out what "Grabber"
> means, but most people won't initially know what this
> command does.
>
> It is just very small suggestion to make it more
> obvious what a very extremely important command does.
>
>
>
> --- Stephen Swaney <sswaney@swbell.net> wrote: >
> William Reynish wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a very humble suggestion to make about the
>>> toolbox menu. Currently it displays the g key
>> action
>>> as "Grabber" wich is confusing I think. It sounds
>> like
>>> you are adding a little grabber object or
>> something.
>>
>> If you were adding something, it would be under the
>> 'Add'
>> menu.
>
> Well duh, but that wasn't the point. The point is that
> "Grabber" doesn't make you think of moving an object.
>
>>> I propose we call it "Grab/Move" or "Move/Grab".
>> Move
>>> because that is what it actually doeas, and Grab
>> so
>>> that we can remember the hotkey G.
>>
>> In English, adding the suffix 'er' to a verb gives
>> the
>> meaning of someone or something who does the verb.
>>
>> Run + er = runner - someone who runs.
>> Grab + er = grabber - something that grabs
>
> Yes exactly. You said it. "SOMETHING that grabs". It
> sounds like a THING that grabs. What the command does
> is it just moves the selected object, it doesn't add
> any grabber of sorts.
>
>
>
>>> This will make learning Blender very very slightly
>>> easier.
>>
>> Hmmm.  If people are falling down over this, they
>> will skin their knees badly when it comes to
>> tricky stuff like vertices, edges and faces.
>
> No, you are wrong. People will only skin their knees
> when they encounter operations wich names/usability is
> illogical. However complicated it gets, if the names
> and interface is logically laid out, users can tackle
> everything.
> However much you know about 3D, you can still be
> confused if a really strange, unknown or illogical
> term is used.
>
>
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