header bars Re: [Bf-funboard] A thing that was better in 2.28

Luke Wenke bf-funboard@blender.org
Fri, 24 Oct 2003 03:25:39 +1000


Hi,
I was talking about the ability to resize the header bar vertically. At the
moment this isn't even a feature of blender. The idea for auto-arranging the
header items was just so that if you made the header two lines high, it
would automatically fill in the two lines for you. If the header is just on
one line, things would still look the same. Normally header items go from
left to right. If they are on multiple lines, they could go from top to
bottom, left to right. (I think that's more logical than bottom to top)
If you squashed the buttons window the header height could still stay the
same (1 line) so things would seem just the same as normal... there would
just be the ability to add more than one header line. (Perhaps simply by
dragging its border, like in Windows - there could be an option to "lock"
the header height - like in Windows).
BTW, I am a big fan of arranging things, and so must some other people since
it is in Windows. I hope it can be an optional feature... I'll make a more
formal proposal in the future. (Possibly including some kind of interactive
applet)
- Luke

----- Original Message ----- 
> I'm with Ton here.  I'm not a big fan of buttons that auto-arrange on
> resize.  It messes with consistancy.  I expect a button to be in the
> same place every time I go to it, no matter what machine, platform, or
> monitor resolution I work at.  One of Blender's strengths, IMO, is that
> no matter what UI conventions it breaks or strange idiosyncracies it has
> compared to other apps (many broken conventions and strange
> idiosyncracies that I've grown to love, I might add), I can expect that
> same behavior everywhere I use it.  That way, all the time I've taken to
> learn the app doesn't get wasted every time I'm on a different machine.
>
> I've rambled a bit off topic here, so I will apologize and end this
> reply here.
>
> Later.
>
>   Groo
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 02:01:57AM +1000, Luke Wenke wrote:
> > > - I want to have equal treatment for horizontal and vertical layouts.
> > > In the latter it should all fit in 250 pixels, something thats not
> > > solved yet. Exceptions for horizontal layouts are always possible
later
> > > on.
> > What if the headers where vertically resizeable? Then (if the header
height
> > was increased) all of the header items could be displayed at once, even
if
> > the header was 150 pixels wide...
> > You can do this in the Windows OS, with the taskbar:
> > http://marcopolo.mde.k12.ms.us/comp_tutorials/taskbar_resizing_g.html
> > Basically the header items could wrap-around. If the icons for different
> > buttons groups were tabs, they should be at the bottom of the header (if
the
> > header is at the top) so that the tabs can join onto the buttons window.
> > In the 2.30 docs it talked about having lots of extra items in the
header
> > for python scripts... without vertical resizing you run out of room
sooner
> > and so have to use the middle mouse button to scroll through the header
> > items. BTW, the mouse wheel could be used to vertically scroll through
the
> > header... so the contents of the header could move up or down one
"line".
> > (It is logical for the vertical mousewheel to work vertically). If would
be
> > a quick way of moving through dozens of icons (you'd go a whole line at
a
> > time rather than just scroll a few pixels horizontally at a time)
> >
> > - Luke
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