[Bf-funboard] about weightting and about panels

[Luke Wenke]

> >Well when I've used a body and a skeleton I don't use weights at all,
> >and it
> >turns out fine
> But you are using weights, you are only using weighting values of 1.0 and
0 though.
> The current Blender layout has confused you to belive, that you are just
assiging vertices to a group, when you have actually been weighting vertices
in groups, which proves that the current setup is confusing.
> I case you have misunderstood: Assign assigns the specified weight value
to the selected vertices. If you have the weight level at 0.5 and click
Assign, the selected vertices will be weighted at 0.5 in the selected
vertice group.

Is there any way of recalling what the weight of a group was? Also, I can
assign the weight 0 to a group... it stops the armature affecting the
vertices but I can still select that group in edit mode.

> >Another thing you could use
> >vertex
> >groups for is if you want to store selections... e.g. you might want to
> >recall part of the object you selected later on if you want to move
> >that
> >part of the object... (or rotate it, etc).
>
> But weighting still makes sence, because as stated, you are weighting the
vertices. Currently, when you click Select, it selects all vertices
> that are weighted above 0.0 in the specified vertex group.
Actually you can give a vertex group a weighting of 0 and when you select
the vertex group, the selected vertices seem to behave normally in editmode
(when you're moving them around, etc).

> >Maybe Xsort/Hash can be used in other ways? Otherwise I guess it >should
> >be0
> >in the particles window...
> Does anyone know if these buttons can affect enything else than particles?
Otherwise I strongly suggest the we move them to the perticles panel.

> May I propose a way of graying out the buttons? Instead of creating a gray
layer ontop of the buttons that should be grayed out, you could
> just change the coulour of the button and text to a more gray shade that
resembles the surrounding shades.
Yeah, average the button background and text colour with the background
colour... so if the button's red component is 100 and the background red
component is 130, the average would be (100+130)/2 = 115. Or it could be a
weighted average where it favours either the background or the foreground
more. The method would be the same for the green and blue colour components.

> Votes for Button grouping styles so far:
> I hope I have everyones votes on so far.
>
>
> 1, http://www.shadeless.dk/editbuttons2.jpg
> Votes: 2
>
> 2, http://www.shadeless.dk/editbuttons2_linedivide.jpg
> Votes: 1
>
> 3, http://www.shadeless.dk/editbuttons2_filldivide.jpg
> Votes: 0
> (I like this one, however I think my vote ends up on the first option)

I like the last one... it is quite spiffy... maybe a bit over the top... the
dividing line is too dark and thick.

- Luke.