<div dir="auto">I agree with you all. Do not terminate the certification program. It is important. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Motivation is key for us all to get to that level. We are all learning. To get to that level. Would be amazing. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 3:02 AM <<a href="mailto:bf-education-request@blender.org">bf-education-request@blender.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Bf-education mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: Terminating the Certified Trainer program... (Pierre Schiller)<br>
2. Re: Terminating the Certified Trainer program... (Ton Roosendaal)<br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 07:03:26 -0500<br>
From: Pierre Schiller <<a href="mailto:3dcinetv@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">3dcinetv@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Terminating the Certified Trainer<br>
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Also, for all BFCT please consider taking this thread over to blender.chat,<br>
officially. No one is attending this mailing list, because they have to be<br>
first: approved, then confirmed by email then finally replying to the<br>
thread.<br>
Please consider taking this to blender.chat on Blender Today community.<br>
Thanks.<br>
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:38 PM Pierre Schiller <<a href="mailto:3dcinetv@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">3dcinetv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi Ton. Thank you for making the marvelous software Blender is today.<br>
><br>
> You mention BFCT status could potentially terminate. I would like to<br>
> present some considerations before, please:<br>
><br>
> BFCT has been enormous help for me as well as other trainers. Many studios<br>
> will not hire or consider solutions from a hobbyist or a CG artists who is<br>
> not directly endorsed with an official profile page like Blendernetwork.org<br>
> has done with all BFCT professionals enrolled in it. The profile hits (page<br>
> searches) alone should give a good *healthy report* on how often *top-industry<br>
> jobs search for specialized Blender trainers/professionals*. Terminating<br>
> the BFCT is cutting out the possibility for an already healthy community<br>
> growing for the next wave in the 3D industry: *realtime graphics and VR<br>
> operative interfaces* for 3D creation. Blender has taken the right steps<br>
> towards the future implementing -even beyond implementing- other scientific<br>
> and robotic areas surpassing 3D vfx and animation renders.<br>
><br>
> I have been invited to many organizations to do *live workshops* because<br>
> they trust that I have done a lot of Blender presentations online and<br>
> offline driving the edge of techniques and tools from version 2.79 onwards<br>
> , endorsed by *being BFCT*. It required me to give *straight answer to<br>
> deep technical problems* on studios using Blender or implementing<br>
> solutions on their own pipelines with other proprietary software and so<br>
> their trust is confirmed on how the certified trainers are endorsed by the<br>
> Blender Foundation, thus bringing prestige and confidence using the<br>
> software.<br>
><br>
> I have been given the opportunity to work with such venturous software<br>
> developers exploring creativity and seeing Blender has stand the tests,<br>
> addons and new implementations, thus *giving these 3d<br>
> industry-professionals confidence when they work along side a BFCT*. I<br>
> can only speak for my cases, but I?m mostly sure many others will be in<br>
> this position through out the world as certified trainers.<br>
><br>
> Training studios has been my main goal, and BFCT helped me through these<br>
> years to walk in those presentations and be aware to what the Blender<br>
> Foundation was doing in progress of Blender and communicate that clearly<br>
> with expectations met from everyone in the room.<br>
><br>
> Without BFCT certification, anyone stands with under qualified users in<br>
> many areas *not knowing what representation Blender would officially have<br>
> to showcase as a solution* for a* studio pipeline or creatively using it<br>
> for new break through* artistic styles for movies, games or commercial<br>
> advertisement...<br>
><br>
> Having 20+ years in the advertisement industry, terminating the BFCT would<br>
> rather hurt the solid commitment that all BFCT pursue: *The efficient<br>
> implementation of Blender for studio production across all platforms and<br>
> media.*<br>
><br>
> This is my line of work and I would love to know more information to<br>
> re-apply for Blender 2.81 BFCT whenever possible.<br>
><br>
> *Ultimately, there should be "specialized" training like the Blender<br>
> Foundation was offering back in March 2018. For example: "Migrating from<br>
> 3DsMax to Blender", "Using Particles for physics simulations", among<br>
> others; and have those programs expand upon review from the BFCT applicant.<br>
> This is a way to search for specialized trainer, rather than an average 3d<br>
> generalist.*<br>
><br>
> *The BFCT applicant submits his specialized trainer program and the<br>
> Blender Foundation evaluates the trainer and his program to emit official<br>
> certification.*<br>
> This is my proposal.<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your attention.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> David Rivera.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Carlos Santana <<a href="mailto:csantanad@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">csantanad@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hello there<br>
>><br>
>> I have been for many years outspoken about the fact that certifications<br>
>> should be extremely more widely available than they are right now<br>
>><br>
>> Like any other certification from CCNA to brain surgeon, the important<br>
>> thing it to licence to institutions, not individuals, it is then the<br>
>> institutions turn to uphold the quality of the certifiable persons<br>
>> acumen in the field.<br>
>><br>
>> Under this scheme, Blender foundation remains the sole giver of<br>
>> certifications, but it does so to accredited institutes and universities,<br>
>> not individuals.<br>
>><br>
>> I have already gone all the way to Amsterdam and talked with a few of the<br>
>> people involved in the main teachers effort, and have already laid out a<br>
>> plan of action to implement such a scheme in the light of the actual<br>
>> CG-FX-Studio interest in the talent Blender attracts.<br>
>><br>
>> I could turn this into a solid certification path that is direly required<br>
>> in order to keep lowering barrier for the large scale adoption of blender<br>
>> in the other visual fields not related to the entertainment industry.<br>
>><br>
>> In turn the entertainment industry sure wold love it if we gave them some<br>
>> tools to remove the guesswork out of hiring Blender bound talent.<br>
>><br>
>> There is an alternative, are there people willing to accept it has been<br>
>> my question in the last 7 or so years<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Carlos<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:07 PM Chris Mcfall <<a href="mailto:chris@unitedfilmdom.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chris@unitedfilmdom.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Personally i always found the blender certification gave clients,<br>
>>> particularly universities confidence in hiring me.<br>
>>><br>
>>> In a community like blenders where there are far more beginner level<br>
>>> users than experienced professionals (particularly ones capable of<br>
>>> imparting training in a digestible manner) a certification needs to exist,<br>
>>> or institutions looking for training are going to wind up disillusioned<br>
>>> hiring under-experienced users who misrepresent blenders capability?s and<br>
>>> this may negatively impact the uptake of institutions and pro studios. As<br>
>>> someone who has taught blender at a number of prestigious universities,<br>
>>> schools, and professional institutions. I believe a tier of quality<br>
>>> trainers for blender is invaluable. Perhaps charging for the certification<br>
>>> again and using that fee to manage pay for the infrastructure would be<br>
>>> worth while.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 18:32, Gossett, Evalyn J <<a href="mailto:egossett@iun.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">egossett@iun.edu</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hello everyone<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thank you for the update.<br>
>>>> I need training maybe not certification.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thank you<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Evalyn J. Gossett<br>
>>>> DNP, RN<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sep 23, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Ton Roosendaal <<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi everyone,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The certified trainer program is dwindling and doesn't get much<br>
>>>> attention nor enthusiasm from trainers really.<br>
>>>> This email is to open the discussion on stopping with the certification<br>
>>>> program, and to provide an alternative.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="https://www.blender.org/certification/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.blender.org/certification/</a><br>
>>>> We installed the certification program in 2007 on popular request,<br>
>>>> provided that:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> - there would be a clear process in place to validate trainers<br>
>>>> - it would be managed well, preferably by trainers themselves.<br>
>>>> I always had mixed feelings about providing official certification. A<br>
>>>> certificate's value is fully determined by the quality of the validation<br>
>>>> procedure and to have a decent examination process. The process we had in<br>
>>>> place for validating trainers was very minimal.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Yet we accepted to do this, because in 2007 many trainers said it would<br>
>>>> help them to get in business. Their clients or universities demanded that.<br>
>>>> Unfortunately that has been true for very few people only.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Currently there are only 12 active certifications.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I propose to stop with certification now. Not only because of lack of<br>
>>>> interest, lack of quality in the program, but especially because it does<br>
>>>> not support the Blender Foundation's goal - which is about supporting<br>
>>>> projects on <a href="http://blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">blender.org</a> related to making Blender.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> What I then rather do instead is to re-activate this mailing list, and<br>
>>>> discuss with educators what Blender Foundation can do to help everyone here<br>
>>>> better. For example with a section on <a href="http://blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">blender.org</a> where educators and<br>
>>>> trainers can meet and exchange useful information and share or download<br>
>>>> training material. The Blender Foundation could add also add staff efforts<br>
>>>> to coordinate this.<br>
>>>> I know this mailing list hasn't been very active. Hope the mail<br>
>>>> arrives, and I'm curious to read your reactions.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Thanks,<br>
>>>> -Ton-<br>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>> Ton Roosendaal - <a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a> - <a href="http://www.blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.blender.org</a><br>
>>>> Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute<br>
>>>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands<br>
>>>> <<a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/Buikslotermeerplein+161,+1025+ET+Amsterdam,+the+Netherlands?entry=gmail&source=g" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/maps/search/Buikslotermeerplein+161,+1025+ET+Amsterdam,+the+Netherlands?entry=gmail&source=g</a>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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From: Ton Roosendaal <<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bf-education@blender.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Terminating the Certified Trainer<br>
program...<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
There is a blender.today thread now too. But Pierre is wrong in his <br>
observation.<br>
<br>
- this list is open for everyone to subscribe (already 15 years).<br>
- this list has over 1500 members.<br>
<br>
-Ton-<br>
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Ton Roosendaal - <a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a> - <a href="http://www.blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.blender.org</a><br>
Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute<br>
Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the Netherlands<br>
<br>
<br>
On 24/09/2019 14:03, Pierre Schiller wrote:<br>
> Also, for all BFCT please consider taking this thread over to <br>
> blender.chat, officially. No one is attending this mailing list, <br>
> because they have to be first: approved, then confirmed by email then <br>
> finally replying to the thread.<br>
> Please consider taking this to blender.chat on Blender Today community.<br>
> Thanks.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:38 PM Pierre Schiller <<a href="mailto:3dcinetv@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">3dcinetv@gmail.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:3dcinetv@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">3dcinetv@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Ton. Thank you for making the marvelous software Blender is today.<br>
><br>
> You mention BFCT status could potentially terminate. I would like<br>
> to present some considerations before, please:<br>
><br>
> BFCT has been enormous help for me as well as other trainers. Many<br>
> studios will not hire or consider solutions from a hobbyist or a<br>
> CG artists who is not directly endorsed with an official profile<br>
> page like Blendernetwork.org has done with all BFCT professionals<br>
> enrolled in it. The profile hits (page searches) alone should give<br>
> a good *healthy report* on how often _top-industry jobs search for<br>
> specialized Blender trainers/professionals_. Terminating the BFCT<br>
> is cutting out the possibility for an already healthy community<br>
> growing for the next wave in the 3D industry: *realtime graphics<br>
> and VR operative interfaces* for 3D creation. Blender has taken<br>
> the right steps towards the future implementing -even beyond<br>
> implementing- other scientific and robotic areas surpassing 3D vfx<br>
> and animation renders.<br>
><br>
> I have been invited to many organizations to do _live workshops_<br>
> because they trust that I have done a lot of Blender presentations<br>
> online and offline driving the edge of techniques and tools from<br>
> version 2.79 onwards , endorsed by *being BFCT*. It required me to<br>
> give _straight answer to deep technical problems_ on studios using<br>
> Blender or implementing solutions on their own pipelines with<br>
> other proprietary software and so their trust is confirmed on how<br>
> the certified trainers are endorsed by the Blender Foundation,<br>
> thus bringing prestige and confidence using the software.<br>
><br>
> I have been given the opportunity to work with such venturous<br>
> software developers exploring creativity and seeing Blender has<br>
> stand the tests, addons and new implementations, thus *giving<br>
> these 3d industry-professionals confidence when they work along<br>
> side a BFCT*. I can only speak for my cases, but I?m mostly sure<br>
> many others will be in this position through out the world as<br>
> certified trainers.<br>
><br>
> Training studios has been my main goal, and BFCT helped me through<br>
> these years to walk in those presentations and be aware to what<br>
> the Blender Foundation was doing in progress of Blender and<br>
> communicate that clearly with expectations met from everyone in<br>
> the room.<br>
><br>
> Without BFCT certification, anyone stands with under qualified<br>
> users in many areas _not knowing what representation Blender would<br>
> officially have to showcase as a solution_ for a*studio pipeline<br>
> or creatively using it for new break through* artistic styles for<br>
> movies, games or commercial advertisement...<br>
><br>
> Having 20+ years in the advertisement industry, terminating the<br>
> BFCT would rather hurt the solid commitment that all BFCT pursue:<br>
> *The efficient implementation of Blender for studio production<br>
> across all platforms and media.*<br>
><br>
> This is my line of work and I would love to know more information<br>
> to re-apply for Blender 2.81 BFCT whenever possible.<br>
><br>
> /Ultimately, there should be "specialized" training like the<br>
> Blender Foundation was offering back in March 2018. For example:<br>
> "Migrating from 3DsMax to Blender", "Using Particles for physics<br>
> simulations", among others; and have those programs expand upon<br>
> review from the BFCT applicant. This is a way to search for<br>
> specialized trainer, rather than an average 3d generalist./<br>
><br>
> /The BFCT applicant submits his specialized trainer program and<br>
> the Blender Foundation evaluates the trainer and his program to<br>
> emit official certification./<br>
> This is my proposal.<br>
><br>
> Thank you for your attention.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely,<br>
><br>
> David Rivera.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 3:01 PM Carlos Santana<br>
> <<a href="mailto:csantanad@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">csantanad@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:csantanad@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">csantanad@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello there<br>
><br>
> I have been for many years outspoken about the fact that<br>
> certifications should be extremely more widely available than<br>
> they are right now<br>
><br>
> Like any other certification from CCNA to brain surgeon, the<br>
> important thing it to licence to institutions, not<br>
> individuals, it is then the institutions turn to uphold the<br>
> quality of the certifiable?persons acumen?in the field.<br>
><br>
> Under this scheme, Blender foundation?remains the sole giver<br>
> of certifications, but it does so to accredited institutes?and<br>
> universities, not individuals.<br>
><br>
> I have already gone all the way to Amsterdam and talked with a<br>
> few of the people involved in the main teachers effort, and<br>
> have already laid out a plan of action to implement such a<br>
> scheme in the light of the actual CG-FX-Studio interest in the<br>
> talent Blender attracts.<br>
><br>
> I could turn this into a solid certification path that is<br>
> direly required in order to keep lowering barrier for the<br>
> large scale adoption of blender in the other visual fields not<br>
> related to the entertainment industry.<br>
><br>
> In turn the entertainment industry sure wold love it if we<br>
> gave them some tools to remove the guesswork out of hiring<br>
> Blender bound talent.<br>
><br>
> There is an alternative, are there people willing to accept it<br>
> has been my question in the last 7 or so years<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Carlos<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 1:07 PM Chris Mcfall<br>
> <<a href="mailto:chris@unitedfilmdom.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chris@unitedfilmdom.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chris@unitedfilmdom.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chris@unitedfilmdom.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Personally i always found the blender certification gave<br>
> clients, particularly universities confidence in hiring me.<br>
><br>
> ?In ?a community like blenders where there are far more<br>
> beginner level users than experienced professionals<br>
> (particularly ones capable of imparting training in a<br>
> digestible manner) a certification needs to exist, or<br>
> institutions looking for training are going to wind up<br>
> disillusioned hiring under-experienced users who<br>
> misrepresent blenders capability?s and this may negatively<br>
> impact the uptake of institutions and pro studios. ? As<br>
> someone who has taught blender at a number of prestigious<br>
> universities, schools, and professional institutions.? I<br>
> believe a tier of quality trainers for blender is<br>
> invaluable. Perhaps charging for the certification again<br>
> and using that fee to manage pay for the infrastructure<br>
> would be worth while.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 18:32, Gossett, Evalyn J<br>
> <<a href="mailto:egossett@iun.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">egossett@iun.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:egossett@iun.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">egossett@iun.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hello everyone<br>
><br>
> Thank you for the update.<br>
> I need training maybe not certification.<br>
><br>
> Thank you<br>
><br>
> Evalyn J. Gossett<br>
> DNP, RN<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
><br>
> On Sep 23, 2019, at 12:04 PM, Ton Roosendaal<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> The certified trainer program is dwindling and<br>
>> doesn't get much attention nor enthusiasm from<br>
>> trainers really.<br>
>> This email is to open the discussion on stopping with<br>
>> the certification program, and to provide an alternative.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://www.blender.org/certification/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.blender.org/certification/</a><br>
>><br>
>> We installed the certification program in 2007 on<br>
>> popular request, provided that:<br>
>><br>
>> - there would be a clear process in place to validate<br>
>> trainers<br>
>> - it would be managed well, preferably by trainers<br>
>> themselves.<br>
>><br>
>> I always had mixed feelings about providing official<br>
>> certification. A certificate's value is fully<br>
>> determined by the quality of the validation procedure<br>
>> and to have a decent examination process. The process<br>
>> we had in place for validating trainers was very<br>
>> minimal.<br>
>><br>
>> Yet we accepted to do this, because in 2007 many<br>
>> trainers said it would help them to get in business.<br>
>> Their clients or universities demanded that.<br>
>> Unfortunately that has been true for very few people<br>
>> only.<br>
>><br>
>> Currently there are only 12 active certifications.<br>
>><br>
>> I propose to stop with certification now. Not only<br>
>> because of lack of interest, lack of quality in the<br>
>> program, but especially because it does not support<br>
>> the Blender Foundation's goal - which is about<br>
>> supporting projects on <a href="http://blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">blender.org</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blender.org</a>> related to making Blender.<br>
>><br>
>> What I then rather do instead is to re-activate this<br>
>> mailing list, and discuss with educators what Blender<br>
>> Foundation can do to help everyone here better. For<br>
>> example with a section on <a href="http://blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">blender.org</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blender.org</a>> where educators and trainers can<br>
>> meet and exchange useful information and share or<br>
>> download training material. The Blender Foundation<br>
>> could add also add staff efforts to coordinate this.<br>
>><br>
>> I know this mailing list hasn't been very active.<br>
>> Hope the mail arrives, and I'm curious to read your<br>
>> reactions.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>><br>
>> -Ton-<br>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> Ton Roosendaal - <a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ton@blender.org</a>> - <a href="http://www.blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.blender.org</a><br>
>> <<a href="http://www.blender.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blender.org</a>><br>
>> Chairman Blender Foundation, Director Blender Institute<br>
>> Buikslotermeerplein 161, 1025 ET Amsterdam, the<br>
>> Netherlands<br>
>> <<a href="https://www.google.com/maps/search/Buikslotermeerplein+161,+1025+ET+Amsterdam,+the+Netherlands?entry=gmail&source=g" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/maps/search/Buikslotermeerplein+161,+1025+ET+Amsterdam,+the+Netherlands?entry=gmail&source=g</a>><br>
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