Does anyone have any thoughts on how suited 2.8 is for new learners?<div><br></div><div>My thoughts are here: <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/peterejkemp/status/1050360844343750656">https://mobile.twitter.com/peterejkemp/status/1050360844343750656</a></div><div><br></div><div>If we got an accessible default setup there would be no need for a 101 version.</div><div><br></div><div>Pete<br><div><br>On Tuesday, 23 October 2018, <<a href="mailto:bf-education-request@blender.org">bf-education-request@blender.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send Bf-education mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: education meeting at bconf (Pierre Schiller)<br>
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:21:57 -0500<br>
From: Pierre Schiller <<a href="mailto:3dcinetv@gmail.com">3dcinetv@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-education] education meeting at bconf<br>
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Intetesting approach as you mention 2.8 is not stable yet. -Not completed-<br>
would be a more suitable word at this point. But I find that 2.8 is<br>
actually predictable in what can or cannot be used when following the<br>
developer's log.<br>
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Just as it is a turn off to teach when something fails and crashes on 2.8,<br>
it is also exciting to work and teach when a feature is prominent, new and<br>
stable.<br>
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So at the moment I am teaching grease pencil and sculpting on 2.8 with<br>
enjoyable sucess.<br>
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Challenges? The incongruence of the keyboard layout. Legacy keboard layout<br>
from 2.79 on 2.8 will not solve this as easily as the devs thought because,<br>
it is a complete new mind set applied to workflow.<br>
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Blender 2.8 coming up approximatedly on Feb 2019. So, we are getting closer.<br>
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Best regards.<br>
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David Rivera.<br>
Blender Foundation Official Trainer<br>
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 04:52 Tiffany, Robert L., Mr., CIV, OSD/DoDEA-Europe <<br>
<a href="mailto:Robert.Tiffany@eu.dodea.edu">Robert.Tiffany@eu.dodea.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Cool - I have been teaching the game engine side of blender for about 10<br>
> years - just love what it offers the students. I was sorry to see it be<br>
> removed from the main Blender program but happy that someone picked it up<br>
> and ran with it (so we don't have to always use older versions).<br>
><br>
> Are these virtual conferences or is this the big Blender conference?? I<br>
> am good to go virtually, but currently reside in Italy, so travel is<br>
> minimal here.<br>
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> Thanks again for your continued support of the product - very cool software<br>
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> Sincerely<br>
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> Robert Tiffany<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Bf-education [mailto:<a href="mailto:bf-education-bounces@blender.org">bf-education-bounces@blender.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> Monique Dewanchand<br>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:40 AM<br>
> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] education meeting at bconf<br>
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> For the past 2 years Peter Kemp and I, Blender teachers, have been<br>
> organizing education meetings at the Blender Conference. The goal is to<br>
> discuss Blender education; challenges, concerns, materials, blender101<br>
> development, education programs or share best practices. It's an open<br>
> discussion, anyone can join and bring in a subject as long as it is related<br>
> to Blender and education.<br>
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> Rgds,<br>
> Monique<br>
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> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:36 AM Tiffany, Robert L., Mr., CIV,<br>
> OSD/DoDEA-Europe <<a href="mailto:Robert.Tiffany@eu.dodea.edu">Robert.Tiffany@eu.dodea.edu</a> <mailto:<br>
> <a href="mailto:Robert.Tiffany@eu.dodea.edu">Robert.Tiffany@eu.dodea.edu</a>> > wrote:<br>
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> What is this?? I teach Blender (game engine) for High School ...<br>
> curious as to what all of this (below) is??<br>
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> Thanks<br>
><br>
> Robert Tiffany<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Bf-education [mailto:<a href="mailto:bf-education-bounces@blender.org">bf-education-bounces@blender.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bf-education-bounces@blender.org">bf-education-bounces@blender.org</a>> ] On Behalf Of Monique<br>
> Dewanchand<br>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 10:17 AM<br>
> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>> ><br>
> Subject: [Bf-education] education meeting at bconf<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> This Thursday is the start of the Blender Conference 2018. I've<br>
> scheduled an education meeting on Friday to discuss Blender education in<br>
> universities and pre-universities.<br>
><br>
> With blender 2.8 coming there is lots to discuss. What challenges<br>
> does blender 2.8 bring when teaching Blender to (young) students?<br>
><br>
> I would like to hear from you. And perhaps we can discuss your<br>
> concerns or feedback at the education meeting.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Monique<br>
> -- At Mind --<br>
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Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:45:17 +0200<br>
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Hi Monique,<br>
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I am teaching Blender to primary kids aged 7-8-9 at an international school in Geneva<br>
At that age students have little to no experience with interfaces; all is done with keyboard shortcuts.<br>
though limited in modelling they are picking up very fast with sculpting<br>
The rationale is that at this age the mind is open to any construction no matter how complex<br>
<br>
being exposed to modelling/sculpting at a young age helps them to develop their mental model and orientation skills<br>
we hope they will continue this at middle and high school before phone and tablet interfaces will spoil them<br>
<br>
let me know if there are other teachers out there with experience to working with very young kids<br>
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we are curious to see if 2.8 will add to sculpting <br>
some default settings are not set for out of the box working if we could change those<br>
or create a kid default version we would be more than happy <br>
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keep us posted<br>
<br>
Rik van Nielen<br>
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> On 22 Oct 2018, at 10:16, Monique Dewanchand <<a href="mailto:m.dewanchand@atmind.nl">m.dewanchand@atmind.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi all,<br>
> <br>
> This Thursday is the start of the Blender Conference 2018. I've scheduled an education meeting on Friday to discuss Blender education in universities and pre-universities.<br>
> <br>
> With blender 2.8 coming there is lots to discuss. What challenges does blender 2.8 bring when teaching Blender to (young) students?<br>
> <br>
> I would like to hear from you. And perhaps we can discuss your concerns or feedback at the education meeting.<br>
> <br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Monique<br>
> -- At Mind --<br>
> -- <a href="http://b3d101.org" target="_blank">b3d101.org</a> <<a href="http://b3d101.org/" target="_blank">http://b3d101.org/</a>> --<br>
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