<div dir="ltr">Dear Piotr.<div><br></div><div>Ok, we will wait for news from BF :)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/12/6 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bf-education-request@blender.org" target="_blank">bf-education-request@blender.org</a>></span><br>
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From: Octavio Mendez <<a href="mailto:octavio@g-blender.org">octavio@g-blender.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 14<br>
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Dear Piotr.<br>
<br>
I agree with you about use a discussion forum.<br>
<br>
About the certification, i think we must focus on create a standard test,<br>
and the certification process will become after.<br>
I agree about "non professional" feeling about the badges too, but i think<br>
it is because we usually see a certificate from a "serious" issuer than a<br>
badge. Still the concept of use badges attract me a little :)<br>
<br>
Any way i've been thinking about the test and i believe we can start<br>
discussing what to evaluate, at which level and with a list of topics to<br>
evaluate.<br>
<br>
What do you think?<br>
<br>
Octavio.<br>
<br>
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> 2. Re: Blender Foundation Certified Trainer (BFCT) - application<br>
> process maybe broken (Dolf Veenvliet)<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:52:29 +0100<br>
> From: Piotr Arlukowicz <<a href="mailto:piotao@gmail.com">piotao@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 10<br>
> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
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> ?Hi All,<br>
> dear Octavio,<br>
><br>
> I can set up WIKI page for us like before, but WIKI? is good only for<br>
> stationary content, as a documentation system, not for real dynamic<br>
> discussion. If we got some clues I will be more than happy to put all our<br>
> work somewhere, and then WIKI will serve well. I asked BF already about a<br>
> good handy platform for discussion and for documentation of certificate<br>
> progress, but we have to wait for them to answer. I you would like, I can<br>
> establish a forum (using SMF engine) on my Polish Community pages, which<br>
> will be international and open for further discussion. One way or another,<br>
> I can setup this in any second.<br>
><br>
> I would like to propose the fist topicto be discussed, i think we must<br>
> >> begin from the beginning: A blenderuser certification is required?,<br>
> yes?,<br>
> >> no?, why? pros and cons?<br>
> ><br>
> > ?<br>
> I would say yes and no. Only in an ideal world we don't need any<br>
> certification. Here where we are we need it to prove something. This is<br>
> important mainly for business and for self-development purposes. And while<br>
> Blender becomes one of the industry and educational standard, we<br>
> desperately need something which can standardize things, mainly at the<br>
> basic ground level. So, certificates for 101 training are welcome, BFCT is<br>
> welcomed, another things are still a subject of discussion.<br>
> ?<br>
><br>
> > About the certificate itself, in thepast, Ton suggest to create or use<br>
> >> something like Mozilla Open Badges(<a href="http://openbadges.org" target="_blank">http://openbadges.org</a> ) insteadof a<br>
> >> certificate. Seems like a good idea to me, what do you think?.<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> ?I have mixed feelings about badges. They really have to be well-taught in<br>
> order to serve seriously as a measurement who represent what. So, we can<br>
> allow two approaches: to disperse them to small specialties, ?or just to<br>
> keep few of them for bigger things. We can also establish levels or trees<br>
> or pyramids and count only the most valuable badges. The system is however<br>
> similar to collecting stamp marks, and in my mind it don't fit well for<br>
> professional grading system. What do you think?<br>
> ?<br>
> ?regards?<br>
> piotr<br>
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> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:43:07 +0100<br>
> From: Dolf Veenvliet <<a href="mailto:dolf@macouno.com">dolf@macouno.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Blender Foundation Certified Trainer<br>
> (BFCT) - application process maybe broken<br>
> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
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> Hi Marcelo,<br>
><br>
> I sent your message to the Certification board. Someone will look into it<br>
> and will get back to you. It may take a few days because we're all quite<br>
> busy, so please be patient. If no one mailed you inside of a week, please<br>
> send me a private e-mail and I will look into it for you.<br>
><br>
> Dolf<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Piotr Arlukowicz <<a href="mailto:piotao@gmail.com">piotao@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Dear Marcelo,<br>
> ><br>
> > it is a bitter pill to hear that your application somehow get lost. For<br>
> my<br>
> > case the process was a bit similar: after first submission I had to wait<br>
> > about two or three months, and everything I managed was done thorough the<br>
> > correspondence with Willem. But I had to send an email with questions<br>
> > what's going on. As far as I know Willem lives in South Africa, which is<br>
> > nice and is creating Blender Community a real international and<br>
> > intercontinental. But the response ratio and reaction speed was beyond<br>
> the<br>
> > satisfaction level.<br>
> ><br>
> > Nowadays many people in Blender Foundation are working hard making huge<br>
> > changes in their scaffold system: the webpage was just changed, Blender<br>
> > Network was integrated, and developers moved from svn to git along with<br>
> > many tools. Some services stopped working, some are broken and another<br>
> one<br>
> > are demanding high efforts, so maybe in this time your correspondence<br>
> just<br>
> > get lost due to all of this.<br>
> ><br>
> > I suggest you to write an email to Francesco Siddi, who is in charge of<br>
> > keeping an eye on all things. Describe your problem and ask for<br>
> solutions.<br>
> > He is very friendly and as a maintainer of Blender Network, which is<br>
> > connecting all BFCT pr0s, he will probably help you. Francesco's email is<br>
> > in CC of this email. I hope this will help you a bit.<br>
> ><br>
> > pz<br>
> > piotr<br>
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> > 2013/12/4 Marcelo V <<a href="mailto:mv_email@yahoo.com">mv_email@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> ><br>
> >> (now in the right thread)<br>
> >><br>
> >> My application to BFCT did not work and there is a chance that the<br>
> >> process is broken somewhere.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I initially applied and my first submission had some missing<br>
> information.<br>
> >> Fair enough, I followed the suggestions sent by Willem (thanks a lot for<br>
> >> the attention BTW) and created a webpage with all required information.<br>
> >> Next, I submitted the eForm twice. However, for both attempts, despite I<br>
> >> got a "Thank you" webpage after committing the application, I did not<br>
> get<br>
> >> the auto reply email.<br>
> >> Therefore, I tried for the third time but submitting with a different<br>
> >> email address. At this last time I did get an auto-reply email fine.<br>
> >> However, according to Willem, no entry was found in the server.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Therefore, my application did not go through despite all of my attempts.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Regards,<br>
> >> Marcelo<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 14<br>
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Dear Octavio,<br>
<br>
I've got an information from BF about some my earlier questions. One of<br>
them was also something about certification and education process. The<br>
advice is to wait, because there is somebody who is already doing a<br>
research in that matter. We are advised to wait a bit more until we know<br>
what is the whole investigation and status. So, I think we can safely<br>
postpone this matter, and return to it in the Future, when we will have<br>
some more info from BF. Also I should be quite nice to not mess up with<br>
somebody's work and wait politely for results or another story.<br>
<br>
best regards!<br>
<br>
pz<br>
piotr<br>
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2013/12/6 Octavio Mendez <<a href="mailto:octavio@g-blender.org">octavio@g-blender.org</a>><br>
<br>
> Dear Piotr.<br>
><br>
> I agree with you about use a discussion forum.<br>
><br>
> About the certification, i think we must focus on create a standard test,<br>
> and the certification process will become after.<br>
> I agree about "non professional" feeling about the badges too, but i think<br>
> it is because we usually see a certificate from a "serious" issuer than a<br>
> badge. Still the concept of use badges attract me a little :)<br>
><br>
> Any way i've been thinking about the test and i believe we can start<br>
> discussing what to evaluate, at which level and with a list of topics to<br>
> evaluate.<br>
><br>
> What do you think?<br>
><br>
> Octavio.<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/12/5 <<a href="mailto:bf-education-request@blender.org">bf-education-request@blender.org</a>><br>
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>> Send Bf-education mailing list submissions to<br>
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>><br>
>> 1. Re: Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 10 (Piotr Arlukowicz)<br>
>> 2. Re: Blender Foundation Certified Trainer (BFCT) - application<br>
>> process maybe broken (Dolf Veenvliet)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:52:29 +0100<br>
>> From: Piotr Arlukowicz <<a href="mailto:piotao@gmail.com">piotao@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 96, Issue 10<br>
>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br>
>><br>
>> ?Hi All,<br>
>> dear Octavio,<br>
>><br>
>> I can set up WIKI page for us like before, but WIKI? is good only for<br>
>> stationary content, as a documentation system, not for real dynamic<br>
>> discussion. If we got some clues I will be more than happy to put all our<br>
>> work somewhere, and then WIKI will serve well. I asked BF already about a<br>
>> good handy platform for discussion and for documentation of certificate<br>
>> progress, but we have to wait for them to answer. I you would like, I can<br>
>> establish a forum (using SMF engine) on my Polish Community pages, which<br>
>> will be international and open for further discussion. One way or another,<br>
>> I can setup this in any second.<br>
>><br>
>> I would like to propose the fist topicto be discussed, i think we must<br>
>> >> begin from the beginning: A blenderuser certification is required?,<br>
>> yes?,<br>
>> >> no?, why? pros and cons?<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ?<br>
>> I would say yes and no. Only in an ideal world we don't need any<br>
>> certification. Here where we are we need it to prove something. This is<br>
>> important mainly for business and for self-development purposes. And while<br>
>> Blender becomes one of the industry and educational standard, we<br>
>> desperately need something which can standardize things, mainly at the<br>
>> basic ground level. So, certificates for 101 training are welcome, BFCT is<br>
>> welcomed, another things are still a subject of discussion.<br>
>> ?<br>
>><br>
>> > About the certificate itself, in thepast, Ton suggest to create or use<br>
>> >> something like Mozilla Open Badges(<a href="http://openbadges.org" target="_blank">http://openbadges.org</a> ) insteadof a<br>
>> >> certificate. Seems like a good idea to me, what do you think?.<br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> ?I have mixed feelings about badges. They really have to be well-taught in<br>
>> order to serve seriously as a measurement who represent what. So, we can<br>
>> allow two approaches: to disperse them to small specialties, ?or just to<br>
>> keep few of them for bigger things. We can also establish levels or trees<br>
>> or pyramids and count only the most valuable badges. The system is however<br>
>> similar to collecting stamp marks, and in my mind it don't fit well for<br>
>> professional grading system. What do you think?<br>
>> ?<br>
>> ?regards?<br>
>> piotr<br>
>> --<br>
>> Piotr Arlukowicz<br>
>> -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----<br>
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>> P++(+++)$>++++ L++(+++)$@>++++$ !E---(---)>++ W++(+++)$@>+++ N(+)>++ o--?<br>
>> !K-(-)>-$ w++(+)>-- !O-(-)>- !M-(-)>-- !V-(-)>- PS(+)>++ !PE()>+ Y PGP>+<br>
>> t(-) !5? !X R()>* tv- b++ DI++ D+(++)>+++ G++@ e++++>+++++ h---()>++ r+++<br>
>> y+++<br>
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>> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:43:07 +0100<br>
>> From: Dolf Veenvliet <<a href="mailto:dolf@macouno.com">dolf@macouno.com</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Blender Foundation Certified Trainer<br>
>> (BFCT) - application process maybe broken<br>
>> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <<a href="mailto:bf-education@blender.org">bf-education@blender.org</a>><br>
>> Cc: Francesco Siddi <<a href="mailto:francesco@blendernetwork.org">francesco@blendernetwork.org</a>><br>
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>> Hi Marcelo,<br>
>><br>
>> I sent your message to the Certification board. Someone will look into it<br>
>> and will get back to you. It may take a few days because we're all quite<br>
>> busy, so please be patient. If no one mailed you inside of a week, please<br>
>> send me a private e-mail and I will look into it for you.<br>
>><br>
>> Dolf<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Piotr Arlukowicz <<a href="mailto:piotao@gmail.com">piotao@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > Dear Marcelo,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > it is a bitter pill to hear that your application somehow get lost. For<br>
>> my<br>
>> > case the process was a bit similar: after first submission I had to wait<br>
>> > about two or three months, and everything I managed was done thorough<br>
>> the<br>
>> > correspondence with Willem. But I had to send an email with questions<br>
>> > what's going on. As far as I know Willem lives in South Africa, which is<br>
>> > nice and is creating Blender Community a real international and<br>
>> > intercontinental. But the response ratio and reaction speed was beyond<br>
>> the<br>
>> > satisfaction level.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Nowadays many people in Blender Foundation are working hard making huge<br>
>> > changes in their scaffold system: the webpage was just changed, Blender<br>
>> > Network was integrated, and developers moved from svn to git along with<br>
>> > many tools. Some services stopped working, some are broken and another<br>
>> one<br>
>> > are demanding high efforts, so maybe in this time your correspondence<br>
>> just<br>
>> > get lost due to all of this.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I suggest you to write an email to Francesco Siddi, who is in charge of<br>
>> > keeping an eye on all things. Describe your problem and ask for<br>
>> solutions.<br>
>> > He is very friendly and as a maintainer of Blender Network, which is<br>
>> > connecting all BFCT pr0s, he will probably help you. Francesco's email<br>
>> is<br>
>> > in CC of this email. I hope this will help you a bit.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > pz<br>
>> > piotr<br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Piotr Arlukowicz<br>
>> > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----<br>
>> > Version: 3.1<br>
>> > GCS/ED/IT/S d++(-)>--pu s(+):(+)> a C++(+++)$@>++++$ ULAVISC*()$>+++$<br>
>> > P++(+++)$>++++ L++(+++)$@>++++$ !E---(---)>++ W++(+++)$@>+++ N(+)>++<br>
>> o--?<br>
>> > !K-(-)>-$ w++(+)>-- !O-(-)>- !M-(-)>-- !V-(-)>- PS(+)>++ !PE()>+ Y<br>
>> PGP>+<br>
>> > t(-) !5? !X R()>* tv- b++ DI++ D+(++)>+++ G++@ e++++>+++++ h---()>++<br>
>> r+++<br>
>> > y+++<br>
>> > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2013/12/4 Marcelo V <<a href="mailto:mv_email@yahoo.com">mv_email@yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> >> (now in the right thread)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> My application to BFCT did not work and there is a chance that the<br>
>> >> process is broken somewhere.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I initially applied and my first submission had some missing<br>
>> information.<br>
>> >> Fair enough, I followed the suggestions sent by Willem (thanks a lot<br>
>> for<br>
>> >> the attention BTW) and created a webpage with all required information.<br>
>> >> Next, I submitted the eForm twice. However, for both attempts, despite<br>
>> I<br>
>> >> got a "Thank you" webpage after committing the application, I did not<br>
>> get<br>
>> >> the auto reply email.<br>
>> >> Therefore, I tried for the third time but submitting with a different<br>
>> >> email address. At this last time I did get an auto-reply email fine.<br>
>> >> However, according to Willem, no entry was found in the server.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Therefore, my application did not go through despite all of my<br>
>> attempts.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Regards,<br>
>> >> Marcelo<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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