<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt">(now in the right thread)<br><br><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4598968822"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">My application to BFCT did not work and there is a chance that the process is broken somewhere.<br><br>I initially applied and my first submission had some missing information. Fair enough, I followed the suggestions sent by Willem (thanks a lot for the attention BTW) and created a webpage with all required information.<br
 clear="none">Next, I submitted the eForm twice. However, for both attempts, despite I got a "Thank you" webpage after committing the application, I did not get the auto reply email.<br clear="none"> Therefore, I tried for the third time but submitting with a different email address. At this last time I did get an auto-reply email fine. However,  according to Willem, no entry was found in the server.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Therefore, my application did not go through despite all of my attempts.<br><br clear="none"><span></span><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Regards,</span></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Marcelo<br
 clear="none"></span></div><div><br clear="none"></div>  <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div class="yiv4598968822yqt0099502739" id="yiv4598968822yqt90054"><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Dolf Veenvliet <dolf@macouno.com><br clear="none">
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education@blender.org> <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:38:11 AM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bf-education] Blender user certification<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv4598968822y_msg_container"><br clear="none"><div id="yiv4598968822"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>This discussion has indeed been going, on and off, for multiple years.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Piotr: you talk a lot about the tasks you set your students, but not their exams... and perhaps that is what this discussion is about? How do you decide your students finished the course successfully, or failed?</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Octavio, do you have students asking your for certification? And if so... certification as what? And... if so... then do you already give them a certificate? We can all always give students a piece of paper that says they completed a course in Blender that we taught... and if you are a certified trainer, that could already be worth a lot? Is the Blender foundation needed for this, or is it just a couple teachers getting together?</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Is it a good idea to do Blender certification (blender basics/advanced), or Skill based certification (3d modelling/animation)?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>And... how to test this? Some basic 3d knowledge can be done multiple choice, but I guess there will always be a part that's "artistic/subjective".</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Dp;f</div></div><div class="yiv4598968822gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4598968822yqt1751635960" id="yiv4598968822yqtfd74472"><div class="yiv4598968822gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Guillermo J Ferro P <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gferrop@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:gferrop@gmail.com">gferrop@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv4598968822gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">I am very interested<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4598968822gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4598968822gmail_quote">2013/12/4 Octavio Mendez <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:octavio@g-blender.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:octavio@g-blender.org">octavio@g-blender.org</a>></span><br clear="none">

<blockquote class="yiv4598968822gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div class="yiv4598968822h5"><div dir="ltr">Hello everyone!<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Time ago we discuss about a blender user certification on this list, and sadly we do not reach any result. Since then, has been growing interest in the subject by blender students, schools, and training centers.</div>


<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would like to bring back the topic and see if we can work together on that:</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ton suggests not to put the efforts on the certification itself, but on the creation of <span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">standardized tests (like "Basic modeling") and offer this to schools and colleges to certify students with. </span></div>


<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br clear="none"></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">He suggest to: "</font><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;">you can name it very smart in a way people perceive it as official, but the certificate would still be officiallly issued by the school itself. It is what Adobe does for photoshop for example."</span></div>


<div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div>Who are interested? :)<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="none"></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888"></font></span><div>
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