[Bf-education] Bf-education Digest, Vol 48, Issue 2
E.Gopala krishnan
gkagri at gmail.com
Sat Aug 15 18:11:34 CEST 2009
*Greetings to you,Ton.
I agree with you.For actual achievement keep practicing&practicing.
Regds G.k.Agri.
*
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Ton Roosendaal <ton at blender.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just a note about certifications; the true value of that lies in a
> verifiable and reliable authority that gives it out. Sofar the educator
> certifications haven't done too bad really... but it has many loose
> ends still (active support by BF especially :).
>
> There's been talks about developer certification too, something I
> rather not burn my energy with now. Standardized artist certification
> will be a nightmare even...
>
> As a producer myself, I would honestly *never* hire someone based on
> certifications, but strictly and only look at the actual achievements,
> portfolio and work experience.
>
> And if an artist presents diplomas or certifications, any sane employer
> will first check on the school or institute that has provided it. Just
> build yourself an excellent name with good training, there's the added
> value students will seek for.
>
> -Ton-
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ton Roosendaal Blender Foundation ton at blender.org www.blender.org
> Blender Institute Entrepotdok 57A 1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands
>
> On 12 Aug, 2009, at 14:05, David Hickson wrote:
>
> > Dolf,
> > Thank you for the input.
> > Step one complete.
> > I took your advice and submitted my info to become a BFCT, and I know
> > join the proud ranks of the others on the list.
> >
> > Next step is to set up some on-line quizzes to establish user levels
> > and to aim them to the right classes.
> >
> > I would like to keep the Blender foundation in the planning stage of
> > this development even if Blenducation goes ends up offering
> > certification independently of the foundation. I would also like to
> > offer anyone interested in helping us out with this stage to join us
> > as we revamp the web site and build these quizzes.
> >
> > The need we have identified is company Tuition-Reimbursement for
> > professional students.
> >
> > Thank you Ton and the rest of the BFCT board.
> >
> > David Hickson
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:00 AM, <bf-education-request at blender.org>
> > wrote:
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> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. Accreditation or certification. (David Hickson)
> >> 2. Re: Accreditation or certification. (E.Gopala krishnan)
> >> 3. Re: Accreditation or certification. (Frans Thamura)
> >> 4. Re: Accreditation or certification. (Dolf Veenvliet)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 08:57:21 -0400
> >> From: David Hickson <davidhickson at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
> >> To: bf-education at blender.org
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <da6ad2860908090557t7c11b838gf80a5ca5207e3e45 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
> >> diligently on
> >> setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse for
> >> all
> >> levels of Blender users.
> >>
> >> We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
> >> adding
> >> classes and attending classes much easier.
> >>
> >> We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
> >> looking for
> >> advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a program.
> >>
> >> I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from the
> >> Blender
> >> foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of students. But
> >> there is
> >> a large number of users that would like a lower level of
> >> certification such
> >> as a user level certification.
> >> Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
> >>
> >> Any advice is welcomed.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Hickson
> >> Aka: Dipingo
> >> ____________________________
> >> Because it is your time.
> >> www.blenducation.org
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:09:34 +0530
> >> From: "E.Gopala krishnan" <gkagri at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
> >> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <144654720908090739v151c0d39sed4531f7a799ede at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> *Greetings to all.It is a welcoming process.I already mailed about
> >> this to
> >> the Foundation.How can we proceed further?
> >> Regds G.K.Agri.
> >> *
> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, David Hickson
> >> <davidhickson at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hello everyone,
> >> >
> >> > As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
> >> diligently
> >> > on setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse
> >> for all
> >> > levels of Blender users.
> >> >
> >> > We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
> >> adding
> >> > classes and attending classes much easier.
> >> >
> >> > We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
> >> looking for
> >> > advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a
> >> program.
> >> >
> >> > I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from
> >> the
> >> > Blender foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of
> >> students. But
> >> > there is a large number of users that would like a lower level of
> >> > certification such as a user level certification.
> >> > Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
> >> >
> >> > Any advice is welcomed.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > David Hickson
> >> > Aka: Dipingo
> >> > ____________________________
> >> > Because it is your time.
> >> > www.blenducation.org
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Bf-education mailing list
> >> > Bf-education at blender.org
> >> > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-education
> >> >
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:11:15 +0700
> >> From: Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
> >> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <3a71add70908091011j6bc06618mf21d947021782eae at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> that will be cool, if we can order to get the online become offline
> >>
> >> we have very bad internet connection here in this country
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Frans Thamura
> >> Meruvian. Java and Enterprise OSS
> >>
> >> Mobile: +62 855 7888 699
> >> Blog & Profile: http://frans.thamura.info
> >>
> >> We provide services to migrate your apps to Java (web), in amazing
> >> fast and reliable.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM, David
> >> Hickson<davidhickson at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hello everyone,
> >> >
> >> > As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
> >> diligently on
> >> > setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse for
> >> all
> >> > levels of Blender users.
> >> >
> >> > We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
> >> adding
> >> > classes and attending classes much easier.
> >> >
> >> > We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
> >> looking for
> >> > advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a
> >> program.
> >> >
> >> > I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from
> >> the Blender
> >> > foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of students.
> >> But there is
> >> > a large number of users that would like a lower level of
> >> certification such
> >> > as a user level certification.
> >> > Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
> >> >
> >> > Any advice is welcomed.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > David Hickson
> >> > Aka: Dipingo
> >> > ____________________________
> >> > Because it is your time.
> >> > www.blenducation.org
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Bf-education mailing list
> >> > Bf-education at blender.org
> >> > http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-education
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:23:21 +0200
> >> From: Dolf Veenvliet <dolf at macouno.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Bf-education] Accreditation or certification.
> >> To: Blender Educators and Trainers <bf-education at blender.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <183452670908091023i316a1d3fvd226d685f6f46ad2 at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> Well, user certification has so far not been something that the
> >> Blender
> >> Foundation has wanted to be involved in. And rightly so... That's
> >> what the
> >> educators are for. The Foundation certifies educators... the
> >> educators
> >> certify users.
> >> If this is something you're serious about... why not first get
> >> certified as
> >> an educator yourself? If more people who are certified are
> >> interested I
> >> think we could possibly set up some guidelines that we all agree on
> >> for
> >> certification of users. Then we could all agree on a standard
> >> certificate,
> >> and agree that certified educators can pass them out.
> >>
> >> Personally though... I've not yet seen the need to certify any of my
> >> students.
> >>
> >> Also... David, you are always free to create and maintain a
> >> blenducation
> >> certificate completely independantly. It has worked for other online
> >> courses
> >> that way already. Then also... if other educators that don't teach
> >> on your
> >> website yet want to certify... maybe they'll ally themselves to you
> >> and
> >> agree to hand out your certificate also to offline students.
> >>
> >> I think that's a very valid way to pick this up. Just do it
> >> yourself, talk
> >> to your educators (you have plenty on your website).... get going...
> >> and if
> >> it takes off, more people will want to join in, and maybe the
> >> certificate
> >> can be applied to other cases as well.
> >>
> >> Just some thoughts,
> >> Dolf
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, E.Gopala krishnan <gkagri at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > *Greetings to all.It is a welcoming process.I already mailed about
> >> this to
> >> > the Foundation.How can we proceed further?
> >> > Regds G.K.Agri.
> >> > *
> >> > On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, David Hickson
> >> <davidhickson at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> As some of you may know, www.Blenducation.org has been working
> >> diligently
> >> >> on setting up Blenders first live on-line, live training recourse
> >> for all
> >> >> levels of Blender users.
> >> >>
> >> >> We are updating the entire site right now to make the method of
> >> adding
> >> >> classes and attending classes much easier.
> >> >>
> >> >> We would like to offer accreditation or certification and are
> >> looking for
> >> >> advice or a school that we can align with to provide such a
> >> program.
> >> >>
> >> >> I understand the the BFCT certification can only be offered from
> >> the
> >> >> Blender foundation and is the ultimate goal of a hand-full of
> >> students. But
> >> >> there is a large number of users that would like a lower level of
> >> >> certification such as a user level certification.
> >> >> Blenducation would like to offer these levels of certification.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any advice is welcomed.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> David Hickson
> >> >> Aka: Dipingo
> >> >> ____________________________
> >> >> Because it is your time.
> >> >> www.blenducation.org
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Bf-education mailing list
> >> >> Bf-education at blender.org
> >> >> http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-education
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
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> >
> >
> > --
> > David Hickson
> > Aka: Dipingo
> > ____________________________
> > Because it is your time.
> > www.blenducation.org
> > _______________________________________________
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