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<p>Hi Ms. López and Mr. Sánchez.</p>
<p><br>
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<p>I explored some options for advanced editing of the manual in
late 2007. The aim was to bring back online editing like the Wiki
offered.</p>
<p>I found two options: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://jupyter.org/">Jupyter</a> and <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://about.gitlab.com/">Gitlab</a>.
<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Advantages: easy setup (only login), no disk space (user), no
markup (Jupyter)<br>
</p>
<p>Disadvantaged: more complex maintenance</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>So my question is is Exelearning online? As far as I can tell
from the roadmap that is planned for 3.0.</p>
<p>So currently it's a local server (like <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pypi.org/project/instant-rst/">Instant-rst</a>)?<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>The migration from the Wiki to <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/index.html">Sphinx</a>
toke us three years (2014-17, parallel to editing). A lot of
effort went into that and not into improving the content itself.</p>
<p>Blender 2.8 is a huge pile of work and the project has too few
contributors.</p>
<p>So it has to be reliable for a long time.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>So Exelearning offers (I might be wrong) </p>
<p>Advantages: WYSIWYG editing/no markup, file management, easier
setup<br>
</p>
<p>Disadvantaged:</p>
<p> more complex maintenance, fragile WYSIWYG editing, custom
file formats,</p>
<p> uncertain software support (main, components, small user
base?), work like styling has to be redone,</p>
<p> our custom scripts need to be adapted<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>And then further questions like how will the
reviewing/translation work? <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>If it is/becomes online then I see it as viable option.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Tobias<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30.11.2018 15:35, Ton Roosendaal
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<div style="background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" size="2"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class="">My name is
Cristina Valdera and I am the director of the <font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
style="font-size:13.31px" class=""><i
class="">National Center for Curricular
Development on Non Proprietary Systems</i></span></font><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
style="font-size:13.31px" class=""> (<a
href="http://cedec.intef.es/"
target="_blank" rel="noopener
noreferrer" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">CEDEC</a>), an
institution dependent </span></font></span></font><font
class="" size="2"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
style="font-size:13.31px" class=""><font
class="" size="2"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
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class="" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white"
class=""><font class=""
color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB">on
the Spanish Ministry of
Education and Professional
Training. Our</span></font><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB">
mission is to support the
design, development </span></font><span
class="" lang="en-GB">and
promotion of open
educational resources</span><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB">
(OER) and the coordination
of the <a
href="http://exelearning.net/"
class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">exelearning.net</a>
project</span></font></span></font></span></font></span></font></span></font></span></font></div>
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class="" color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB"><br
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</span></font></span></div>
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<div style="background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" size="2"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
style="font-size:13.31px" class="">I´m
contacting you because </span></font></span></font><font
class="" size="2"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
style="font-size:13.31px" class=""><font
class="" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB">we are aware
that Bienvenido Sánchez (a Blender
and Exelearning user) proposed the
idea of using Exelearning to
create the Blender manual, and we
consider it is an idea with great
potential.</span></font></span></font></span></font></span></font><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font class=""
color="#00000A"><span class="" lang="en-GB"><br
class="">
</span></font><font class="" color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB"></span></font></span></div>
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style="font-size:13.32px;
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<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB">At our web <a
href="http://exelearning.net/en/"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">http://exelearning.net</a>
you can find all the information you may
need about this tool, an <a
href="https://youtu.be/v_rGjOBtvhI"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">explaining
video</a> and the <a
href="http://descargas.educalab.es/cedec/exe_learning/Manuales/exe21/Manual_exe21_English/index.html"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true"> User
Manual in English.</a> Some examples of
exelearning possibilities are <a
href="http://descargas.educalab.es/cedec/proyectoedia/ingles/contenidos/ourcountryexpo/index.html"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true"> here</a>
or <a
href="http://max.educa.madrid.org/manual/max10/index.html"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">here</a>,
and this is <a
href="https://youtu.be/QqgItGCj_Vg"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">the
video that Bienvenido Sánchez prepared
for his proposal</a>. Styles are
customizable, and we are working on an
online version of the tool.<br class="">
</span></font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB"><br class="">
</span></font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB">In addition to exelearning
development, we work, </span></font></span><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB"><font class="" size="2"
face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span
class="" lang="en-GB">through EDIA
Project,</span></font></span></font>
with teachers in the creation and
testing of OER and provide continuous
professional training about OER, active
education methodologies and free software</span></font><font
class="" color="#00000A">. All EDIA
resources carry an open license (Creative
Commons BY-SA) and are created with<b
class=""> Exelearning</b> in order to
facilitate their revision, remix and
redistribution.<span class="" lang="en-GB">
OER from EDIA Project are evaluated,
classified and made available with free
access in </span></font><a
href="http://cedec.intef.es/" rel="noopener
noreferrer" target="_blank" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true"><span class=""
lang="en-GB">CEDEC´s web</span></a><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB"> and in the Spanish resources
platform </span></font><a
href="https://procomun.educalab.es/es"
rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
class="" lang="en-GB">Procomún</span></a><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB">.</span></font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB"><br class="">
</span></font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><br class="">
</font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""></span><font
class="" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB">We consider that
communication and collaboration between
Blender an exelearning communities would
be mutually beneficial for both. <br
class="">
</span></font></span></font></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB"><br class="">
</span></font></span></font></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><span class=""
lang="en-GB">Please, should you have any
doubt or information request, just let
me know.<br class="">
</span></font></span></font></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A"><br class="">
</font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A">Thank you in
advance for your attention. I look forward
to your answer.</font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
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class="" color="#00000A"><br class="">
</font></span></div>
<div style="background-color:white" class=""><span
style="font-size:13.32px;
background-color:white" class=""><font
class="" color="#00000A">Best regards,</font></span></div>
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-- <br class="">
CRISTINA VALDERA LÓPEZ<br class="">
Directora<br class="">
CEDEC (Centro Nacional de Desarrollo <br
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Curricular en Sistemas no Propietarios)<br
class="">
<a href="http://cedec.intef.es/" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">http://cedec.intef.es/</a><br
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C/ Lope de Vega 21<br class="">
06800, Mérida<br class="">
Tlf: 924301863<br class="">
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