Wim welcome. We'll use IRC channel #blenderwiki at 2 pm CST (a reasonable hour for the europeans +6 hrs?) if most can make it then. We need to make sure that mindrones or one of the other wiki core team is available and brecht or other from the core dev group can make it.<br>
<br>k<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Wim Teuling <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wfteuling@yahoo.com" target="_blank">wfteuling@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span>Although I am a newbie here, I do have technical writing and a lot of instructional material writing experience. I'd like to participate as well, if allowed. <br>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> amdbcg <<a href="mailto:amdbcg@gmail.com" target="_blank">amdbcg@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Blender Documentation Project <<a href="mailto:bf-docboard@blender.org" target="_blank">bf-docboard@blender.org</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 3, 2012 1:53 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bf-docboard] Current state of wiki updating.<br> </font> </div><div><div class="h5">
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<div>A Scrum meeting sounds excellent.
Wednesday night? what time in UTC? I'm in the USA (CST -6:00 UTC)<br>
When the meeting takes place, could someone take notes, summarize,
and post these notes back here? This will put everyone on the same
page. <br>
-amdbcg<br>
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On 9/3/2012 8:38 AM, Kesten Broughton wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">One thing that would really help with relaxing the
review process and avoid things getting messed up would be a <a rel="nofollow" href="https://share.coursera.org/wiki/index.php?title=ML:Neural_Networks:_Learning&action=history" target="_blank">history
tab</a>. Many wikis have this and it serves as a version
control of sorts. I believe it is "built in" to the wiki
framework and should just need enabling.<br>
<br>
This way, at times when our reviewer to contributor count is too
low we could allow contributions to be pushed live before review
with a note that "This page needs review" like wikipedia has. If
the new contribution is really "messed up" then the change could
be reverted (but not destroyed). <br>
<br>
When our reviewer team is functioning, then we could tighten up
the process to 'push live".<br>
<br>
I'm currently doing some review for Jim's work on BGE, but I
haven't been trained by one of the core members, so i'm not sure
if i'm missing anything. We're also not clear on the procedure to
push live once a page has been reviewed.<br>
<br>
This page should be used to track our work in progress.<br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual</a><br>
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My vote is for a wiki-team scrum on IRC asap where we can hash out
a short term plan for the next month or two that is satisfactory
to all. How about wed night?<br>
<br>
kesten<br>
<br>
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<div>On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Brecht
Van Lommel <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be" target="_blank">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I agree that the review process is not working, at this point
the<br>
community is just too small to have a process this formal.
People<br>
can't take responsibility immediately, they start first making
small<br>
changes, and later might get more involved and be ready to
take on<br>
responsibility. But there's not much point in doing that
before they<br>
have worked for a while to convince themselves and others that
this is<br>
something they want to do.<br>
<br>
Not sure what the right answer is, but I think the reviewing
process<br>
should be relaxed. At least small changes like documenting a
new<br>
option and the type of cleanups mentioned at the top of manual
pages<br>
should be allowed without review. Why not do that and have a
few<br>
people monitor recent changes? I'd volunteer for that.<br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=500&days=30&target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&limit=500&days=30&target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual</a><br>
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Brecht.<br>
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On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, mindrones <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:mindrones@gmail.com" target="_blank">mindrones@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> at least until the end of September, I will really
have no time to<br>
> follow wiki pages editing and/or reviewing.<br>
><br>
> Opening up the wiki has been done already and the
mess that came out<br>
> in a year took months to be fixed.<br>
> After long discussions we have preferred to push
people to take<br>
> responsibility instead.<br>
><br>
> We have decided to start this table<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles</a><br>
> to invite people to take responsibility for some
particular chapter.<br>
> That table is still kind of empty though... If you
are active on the<br>
> wiki and want to take responsibility for a certain
area of the manual,<br>
> just show up there.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
> Let me apologies for the long silence, I'll try to be
more active and<br>
> read these mail more often.<br>
> Also, not being able to talk on IRC nowadays is quite
a big hassle,<br>
> sorry for that.<br>
><br>
> Frankly, if I will realize that I'm being more of a
burden than a<br>
> help, I'll "resign" from my role of wiki coordinator
and will let the<br>
> witness to someone else. In my view Greylica is a
good substitute for<br>
> example, him being quite enthusiastic and active
since a long time :),<br>
> but that should be discussed by other admins and
active writers.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
> Luca<br>
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