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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">@Wim: Welcome!&nbsp; Once the meeting time
      is set, try to make it to the meeting. You're free to help :D. I'm
      sure you've already read the&nbsp;<a
        href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Guides/Style_Guide">
        Style Guidelines</a> and are familiar with <a
        href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Guides/Templates">templates</a>
      for formatting. Your technical writing skills will be a nice
      addition to this team.<br>
      <br>
      @Board: Just a refresher on SCRUM roles: <a
        href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_%28development%29#Roles">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)#Roles</a>
      . We can switch off roles throughout the year if desired.<br>
      <br>
      Product/Doc Owner -The "Leader" of the team : I nominate Kesten
      since he is organizing a first meeting. <br>
      <br>
      Scrum Master: I would like to help out with the Scrum Master since
      I was posting in the IRC and helped get this off its feet. If
      someone else thinks they can also help fulfill this position, feel
      free to speak up - An additional few people&nbsp; to switch off with is
      always nice. <br>
      <br>
      Dev/Doc Team - if you're on the mailing list, this is your role :<br>
      <ol>
        <li>&nbsp;At the beginning of each (week/ 2 weeks/ month) , you will
          be given a list of assignments. <br>
        </li>
        <ol>
          <li>Assignments will either be distributed via dictatorship
            model, or a first-come-first-serve model. <br>
          </li>
        </ol>
        <li>After you complete your doc assignment, you will be expected
          to review at least 3 other completed docs from other people in
          a round-robin fashion.</li>
        <li>After a doc's page is reviewed by 3 dev/doc team members
          and/or the&nbsp; Product/Doc owner, it will come off the task list.</li>
        <li>A 1-5 day period will be allocated for the dev/doc team to
          find 1-4 pages to add to the queue of assignments for the
          following week.<br>
        </li>
      </ol>
      If you would like to edit, modify, or critique this method, feel
      free to do so. <br>
      Perhaps we can use<a
href="https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=amdbcg%40gmail.com&amp;ctz=America/Chicago">
        Google Calendar</a>&nbsp; for the schedule? <br>
      <br>
      @Kesten: The meeting sounds fine. I'm not sure If I can make it
      due to my job, but I will try. Can you have someone take notes? <br>
      <br>
      -amdbcg<br>
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      On 9/3/2012 4:00 PM, Wim Teuling wrote:<br>
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        <div><span>Although I am a newbie here, I do have technical
            writing and a lot of instructional material writing
            experience. I'd like to participate as well, if allowed. <br>
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                    <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
                    amdbcg <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amdbcg@gmail.com">&lt;amdbcg@gmail.com&gt;</a><br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                    Blender Documentation Project
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bf-docboard@blender.org">&lt;bf-docboard@blender.org&gt;</a> <br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                    Monday, September 3, 2012 1:53 PM<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                    Re: [Bf-docboard] Current state of wiki updating.<br>
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                    <div class="yiv1889155308moz-cite-prefix">A Scrum
                      meeting sounds excellent. Wednesday night? what
                      time in UTC? I'm in the USA (CST -6:00 UTC)<br>
                      When the meeting takes place, could someone take
                      notes, summarize, and post these notes back here?
                      This will put everyone on the same page. <br>
                      -amdbcg<br>
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                      On 9/3/2012 8:38 AM, Kesten Broughton wrote:<br>
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                    <blockquote type="cite">One thing that would really
                      help with relaxing the review process and avoid
                      things getting messed up would be a <a
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href="https://share.coursera.org/wiki/index.php?title=ML:Neural_Networks:_Learning&amp;action=history">history

                        tab</a>.&nbsp; Many wikis have this and it serves as
                      a version control of sorts.&nbsp; I believe it is
                      "built in" to the wiki framework and should just
                      need enabling.<br>
                      <br>
                      This way, at times when our reviewer to
                      contributor count is too low we could allow
                      contributions to be pushed live before review with
                      a note that "This page needs review" like
                      wikipedia has.&nbsp; If the new contribution is really
                      "messed up" then the change could be reverted (but
                      not destroyed).&nbsp; <br>
                      <br>
                      When our reviewer team is functioning, then we
                      could tighten up the process to 'push live".<br>
                      <br>
                      I'm currently doing some review for Jim's work on
                      BGE, but I haven't been trained by one of the core
                      members, so i'm not sure if i'm missing anything.&nbsp;
                      We're also not clear on the procedure to push live
                      once a page has been reviewed.<br>
                      <br>
                      This page should be used to track our work in
                      progress.<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual</a><br>
                      <br>
                      My vote is for a wiki-team scrum on IRC asap where
                      we can hash out a short term plan for the next
                      month or two that is satisfactory to all.&nbsp;&nbsp; How
                      about wed night?<br>
                      <br>
                      kesten<br>
                      &nbsp;<br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="yiv1889155308gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep
                        3, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Brecht Van Lommel <span
                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                          solid;padding-left:1ex;">Hi,<br>
                          <br>
                          I agree that the review process is not
                          working, at this point the<br>
                          community is just too small to have a process
                          this formal. People<br>
                          can't take responsibility immediately, they
                          start first making small<br>
                          changes, and later might get more involved and
                          be ready to take on<br>
                          responsibility. But there's not much point in
                          doing that before they<br>
                          have worked for a while to convince themselves
                          and others that this is<br>
                          something they want to do.<br>
                          <br>
                          Not sure what the right answer is, but I think
                          the reviewing process<br>
                          should be relaxed. At least small changes like
                          documenting a new<br>
                          option and the type of cleanups mentioned at
                          the top of manual pages<br>
                          should be allowed without review. Why not do
                          that and have a few<br>
                          people monitor recent changes? I'd volunteer
                          for that.<br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
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href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&amp;limit=500&amp;days=30&amp;target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&amp;limit=500&amp;days=30&amp;target=Doc%3A2.6%2FManual</a><br>
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                              Brecht.<br>
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                              On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:20 AM, mindrones
                              &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                href="mailto:mindrones@gmail.com">mindrones@gmail.com</a>&gt;

                              wrote:<br>
                              &gt; Hi all,<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; at least until the end of September,
                              I will really have no time to<br>
                              &gt; follow wiki pages editing and/or
                              reviewing.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Opening up the wiki has been done
                              already and the mess that came out<br>
                              &gt; in a year took months to be fixed.<br>
                              &gt; After long discussions we have
                              preferred to push people to take<br>
                              &gt; responsibility instead.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; We have decided to start this table<br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki%20Team#Roles</a><br>
                              &gt; to invite people to take
                              responsibility for some particular
                              chapter.<br>
                              &gt; That table is still kind of empty
                              though... If you are active on the<br>
                              &gt; wiki and want to take responsibility
                              for a certain area of the manual,<br>
                              &gt; just show up there.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; --<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Let me apologies for the long
                              silence, I'll try to be more active and<br>
                              &gt; read these mail more often.<br>
                              &gt; Also, not being able to talk on IRC
                              nowadays is quite a big hassle,<br>
                              &gt; sorry for that.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Frankly, if I will realize that I'm
                              being more of a burden than a<br>
                              &gt; help, I'll "resign" from my role of
                              wiki coordinator and will let the<br>
                              &gt; witness to someone else. In my view
                              Greylica is a good substitute for<br>
                              &gt; example, him being quite enthusiastic
                              and active since a long time :),<br>
                              &gt; but that should be discussed by other
                              admins and active writers.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Kind regards,<br>
                              &gt; Luca<br>
                              &gt;
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