I kind of agree with Fade. I would be interested in continuing to help add wiki pages again. I had made a bunch of wiki structure changes a while back, that should have been reviewed prior, but things like adding content to pages, or moving content to appropriate pages could be well ahead of where it is now if the review process was eased up a bit. It's troubling to learn that, after such a big deal was made over a new reviewing process, not much progress has been made. I have a hard time believing the manual would get that out of hand by opening up page editing, as long as there is consistency in formatting guidelines that are followed. Are there really that many people actively working on the manual?<br>
<br>On the topic of manual structure, there are several areas of redundancy and inconsistency in the manual index I think could be improved on. For example these 7 pages:<br><ul><li>Graph Editor</li><li>F-Curves <br></li>
<li>
-F-Curves Types <br></li><li>-F-Curves Graph Editor Interface <br></li><li>-Editing</li><li>--F-Curves</li><li>--Keyframes</li></ul><p>could be easily fit into about 3 pages:</p><ul><li>Graph editor</li>
<li>F-curves</li><li>Editing f-curves</li></ul><p>There is inconsistency in the grouping of Blender functions into manual pages. I would argue that some pages might be too specific. Like, do we really need 6 pages on selecting mesh components? And only 1 page on animating Armatures? Resolving things like these would reduce the empty page count(~137), and make it less confusing, and easier to add content in the appropriate places, in my opinion. (e.g. the mesh editing and animation pages)</p>
<p>Anyways, that's my thoughts. <br>
</p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Fade <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fade_docboard_blender@ymail.com" target="_blank">fade_docboard_blender@ymail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I don't know about Ton, but Brecht
usually documents whatever he's working on as he codes it so I'd
imagine he's aware of the general lack of activity.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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On 09/01/12 16:05, Robert wrote:<br>
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<div>Has Ton, Brecht, or one of the main
developers seen this problem yet? <br>
-Robert <br>
On 9/1/2012 10:19 AM, <a href="mailto:fade_docboard_blender@ymail.com" target="_blank">fade_docboard_blender@ymail.com</a>
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<div>I know what you mean, I've got
nearly 20 pages linked in the task list (<a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Meta:Wiki_Tasks/Review_2.6_Manual</a>)
and again on my user page that haven't been reviewed. Some of
these have been sitting there since the start of February.
Waiting 7 months for a review has all but killed my interest
in contributing. I'm also going to be *that guy* and say that
I called it (<a href="http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-docboard/2012-February/003861.html" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-docboard/2012-February/003861.html</a>).<br>
<br>
I know that there was a lot of effort put into setting up this
review process but it hasn't worked and doesn't look like it's
going to. There simply aren't enough people with enough time
to make this system work properly. <br>
<br>
Keeping the task list is useful, but I'm inclined to think
that it's time to ditch the whole review thing. At this point,
it's just holding up improvements to the manual. I know that
it was put in place for quality control, but it's had the
opposite effect since none of the contributions are making it
into the manual and we're still left with the incorrect and
outdated pages. <br>
<br>
The review system is just placing obstacles in front of
current and potential contributors and I'd rather run the risk
of some lower quality pages so that it's easier for people to
contribute. <br>
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Cheers<br>
Fade<br>
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On 08/28/12 01:20, Sascha wrote:<br>
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I had posted updates for the strands, build modifier, particle
mode, and bake pages over 4 months ago, but they still haven't
been reviewed<br>
I've really lost all momentum on wiki editing after this much
time waiting for a proof-read<br>
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<a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Sascha_Uncia/Doc:2.6/Manual/Materials/Properties/Strands" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Sascha_Uncia/Doc:2.6/Manual/Materials/Properties/Strands</a><br>
<a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Sascha_Uncia/Doc:2.6/Manual/Physics/Particles/Mode" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Sascha_Uncia/Doc:2.6/Manual/Physics/Particles/Mode</a><br>
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