<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><font size="3"><span>Hi all,</span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="font-family: monospace;"><br></span></font></div><div><font size="3"><span style="font-family: monospace;"></span>On 11/05/2011 02:30 PM, mindrones wrote:</font></div><div style="font-style: italic;"><font size="3">> I see Irve in irc quite often; Fade, never tried to join #blenderwiki?</font></div><div><font size="3"><br></font></div><div><font size="3">Sometimes. I don't normally see many people in the chat <br></font></div><div><font size="3">when I do join, but I suspect that's just because I'm in Australia</font></div><div><font size="3">and several timezones removed from most people here.<br></font></div><div><br></div><div style="font-style: italic;">><span style="font-family: monospace;"> </span>What about: Irve -> A | Fade
-> B, so I can go ahead on other stuff? :)</div><div><br></div><div>No worries. I'll work on that over the next few days and report back <br></div><div>when I'm done. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the explanation over the redirects too. Make much more</div><div>sense now. :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Fade<br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> mindrones <mindrones@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> bf-docboard@blender.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 5 November 2011 11:30 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bf-docboard] Redirecting old 2.3 docs: help needed!<br></font><br>Hi all,<br><br>On
11/03/2011 02:35 PM, Jaagup Irve wrote:<br>> Mindrones: I'd be willing to help if I'm online at the time. You are 1<br>> timezone away but I'm sometimes able to postpone my sleep. I can be<br>> found at skype under jaagup.irve user if I'm not in the IRC (which<br>> happens sometimes).<br><br>On 11/05/2011 02:21 AM, Fade S wrote:<br>> I'm happy to help with this. <br><br><br>Cool thanks guys :)<br><br>I see Irve in irc quite often; Fade, never tried to join #blenderwiki?<br><br><br><br>On 11/05/2011 02:21 AM, Fade S wrote:<br>> How do you want to split up the work to<br>> avoid duplication? Maybe we can assign volunteers a section in the order<br>> they've emailed. e.g. you take Section 1: Introduction to Blender,<br>> Jaagup takes Section 2: Modelling, materials and lights, I take Section<br>> 3: etc.<br><br>First of all,<br><br><a href="http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlII/"
target="_blank">http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlII/</a><br><br>is a Reference and we can redirect these after we have done the<br>automatic reference, so let's focus on<br><br><a href="http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/" target="_blank">http://www.blender.org/documentation/htmlI/</a><br><br>There we have 180 links:<br><br>A)<br>From: I. Introduction to Blender<br>To: II. Modelling, Materials and Lights<br>----------------------------------------------<br>88 links<br><br>B)<br>From: III. Animation<br>To: Glossary<br>----------------------------------------------<br>92 links<br><br><br>What about: Irve -> A | Fade -> B, so I can go ahead on other stuff? :)<br><br>Is that ok?<br><br><br>> I do have a few queries though. Why are we mapping it to the 2.4 manual<br>> and not the 2.6 manual? From the mapping and your later post here:<br>> <br>> <a
href="http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-docboard/2011-November/003772.html" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-docboard/2011-November/003772.html</a><br>> <br>> It seems like we'll be mapping 2.3-->2.4, then aligning 2.4 to 2.6 as<br>> much as possible. If I've understood this and the later SEO discussions<br>> correctly (and very likely I haven't ;)), it means that people will<br>> search for "blender extrusion", find the 2.3 page, get shifted over to<br>> the 2.4 manual via the server mapping and then redirected to 2.<br><br>> If you're going to align 2.4 and 2.6, would it not be simpler to wait<br>> until that is done, then just map 2.3 directly to 2.6?<br><br><br>After the mapping, google will know that a certain 2.3 page is now<br>Doc:2.4/Manual/Foo.<br><br>But Doc:2.4/Manual/Foo is crosslinked to Doc:2.5/Manual/Foo and google<br>knows this :)<br><br>So, by searching for "blender foo" in the search
results stack we will<br>hopefully find Doc:2.6/Manual/Foo alongside of Doc:2.4/Manual/Foo.<br>By choosing 2.6, we're saying google that we prefer 2.6 and I think<br>google takes in account the human choice too, to calculate a page ranking.<br><br>This way we won't damage articles linking to old pages (think to the<br>animation chapters which are quite different and partly incompatible).<br><br>Hope this makes sense for you guys too?<br><br><br><br>On 11/05/2011 09:49 AM, Raindrops From Sky wrote:<br>> Another aspect:<br>><br>> The 2.3 -> 2.4 (or 3.6) redirect will be within the same website<br>> (blender.org <<a href="http://blender.org" target="_blank">http://blender.org</a>>).<br>> Such links may not help in increasing the rating at all.<br><br>These would not be links, but permanent redirects.<br><br><br>> For higher ranking, the pages need inbound links from OTHER websites.<br>> In fact, the tag analysis points out
that there are no inbound links<br>at present.<br><br>These pages won't link to wiki, because they won't exist anymore, so<br>there wouldn't be backlinks at all.<br><br>The reason to use a permanent redirect is to tell the search engine<br>where to go look when they won't find the high rank pages anymore.<br><br>I'm not sure if this will attribute the high rank to the wiki pages<br>somehow, but surely this is better than just removing the pages and hope<br>that this will make the wiki pages jump up of 1 step in the results stack :)<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br>Luca<br><br>_____________________________<br><br><a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Mindrones" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Mindrones</a><br><a href="http://www.mindrones.com" target="_blank">http://www.mindrones.com</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Bf-docboard mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Bf-docboard@blender.org"
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