Hello, I thought I might chime in and comment on the issue of moving pages. Maybe I'm missing some of the details but I think that if pages are moved there definitely needs to be some automated redirecting put into place. There is a mountain of external resources (articles, tutorials, forum posts, blog posts, etc.) that link to specific wiki pages and those links will become dead links. Not cool at all.<br>
<br>There are already too many dead links in the community that have been created from wiki pages being rearranged without proper redirecting.<br><br>Hopefully, I'm missing some details. I'll admit that I haven't been following the discussion entirely.<br>
<br><br>Thanks for the efforts!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Tobias Regenbrecht <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:regenbrecht@gmx.net">regenbrecht@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">mindrones wrote:<br>
> --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Tobias Regenbrecht <<a href="mailto:regenbrecht@gmx.net">regenbrecht@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> > With all your categorizing and templating and sorting and<br>
> > the like, you won't<br>
> > get a page more to be written and finished.<br>
><br>
> I don't agree, all this stuff about categorizing images is for simplicity.<br>
</div>I hope you are right, I have made it clear that I'm skeptic about that, but<br>
everything that makes contributing easier is good.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> > -> make it easy to share the content with other places<br>
> > and keep the license as<br>
> > open as possible.<br>
><br>
> What's the problem with the license?<br>
</div>First of all, the license is not clear. The only mentioned license would be<br>
Open Content License, but you can't choose another one like public domain or<br>
GFDL. The upload page <a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Special:Upload" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Special:Upload</a> does<br>
not state the license, the upload pages in other languages are even worse (at<br>
least the one in german).<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> > -> keep the structure flat so that you can rearrange the<br>
> > table of contents<br>
> > without moving the pages.<br>
><br>
> People in wikipedia channel just told me plain and simple that wiki is not<br>
> a good tools for manuals, because of its flatness (they said "just use a<br>
> CMS"), so we should take the best from wiki with some effort for<br>
> structuring.<br>
</div>I have another opinion, but who am I? I've just written a manual keeping it<br>
flat and I've made the experience that a flat structure is better ... but<br>
thay may work differently for other peoples.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I don't see problems in moving pages. Giving a structure serves to easily<br>
> find things out of the structure itself, so it's easy to keep things<br>
> ordered.<br>
</div>The structure should be kept only in the toc and by crosslinking. Google finds<br>
anything well enough.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> After we'll have things refactored, we will be able to copy the manual to<br>
> Doc:2.48/Manual and keep updating Doc:Manual, so old images will still be<br>
> in Doc:2.48/Manual, and we'll be able to update new ones.<br>
</div>This is a good thing, that was not always so clear as now.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> IMO we should think to readers first. One of the main reason I started this<br>
> is because I was frustrated sometimes reading the wiki, I just imagined all<br>
> the other ones like me and decided to give my contribution.<br>
</div>I really appreciate your work and think you're doing a good job.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
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