<div dir="ltr">Nooooooooo, Brecht!!! :) We'll miss your fantastic editions to Cycles! I hope Cycles development doesn't suffer. But in all seriousness, good luck on your new job, that's exciting! Best wishes for the future.<br>
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Today's Topics:<br>
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1. Starting a new job (Brecht Van Lommel)<br>
2. Re: Starting a new job (Girish Ramesh)<br>
3. Re: Starting a new job (Jonathan Williamson)<br>
4. Re: Starting a new job (Nazim Mer)<br>
5. Re: Starting a new job (Sebastian R?thlisberger)<br>
6. Re: Starting a new job (Matt Ebb)<br>
7. Re: Starting a new job (Marco G)<br>
8. Re: Starting a new job (Greg Zaal)<br>
9. Re: Starting a new job (Thomas Beck)<br>
10. Re: Starting a new job (David Fenner)<br>
11. Re: Starting a new job (Le Jardin Digital)<br>
12. Re: Starting a new job (Hadrien Brissaud)<br>
13. Re: Starting a new job (Adriano Oliveira)<br>
14. Re: Starting a new job (David Black)<br>
15. Re: Starting a new job (Nicholas Bishop)<br>
16. Re: Starting a new job (Ton Roosendaal)<br>
17. Re: Starting a new job (Daniel Salazar - <a href="http://patazstudio.com" target="_blank">patazstudio.com</a>)<br>
18. Re: Starting a new job (Steve Obbayi)<br>
19. Re: Starting a new job (Gottfried Hofmann)<br>
20. Re: Starting a new job (J?rgen Herrmann)<br>
21. Re: Starting a new job (<a href="mailto:pauloperbone@yahoo.com">pauloperbone@yahoo.com</a>)<br>
22. Re: Starting a new job (Dan McGrath)<br>
23. Camera Ray is also Singular Ray? (Gottfried Hofmann)<br>
24. Re: Camera Ray is also Singular Ray? (storm)<br>
25. Re: Starting a new job (storm)<br>
26. Re: Starting a new job (Matthew Heimlich)<br>
27. Re: Starting a new job (Ton Roosendaal)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:01:36 +0200<br>
From: Brecht Van Lommel <<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>><br>
Subject: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>><br>
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Hi all,<br>
<br>
In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
other developers.<br>
<br>
Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
coming.<br>
<br>
As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
<br>
Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Brecht.<br>
<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 13:03:56 +0100<br>
From: Girish Ramesh <<a href="mailto:rgirish28@gmail.com">rgirish28@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Congratulations Brecht. Wish you all the best and thank you for all the<br>
support and constant development for Cycles and Blender!<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14 June 2014 13:01, Brecht Van Lommel <<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
> volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 07:05:38 -0500<br>
From: Jonathan Williamson <<a href="mailto:jonathan@cgcookie.com">jonathan@cgcookie.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>><br>
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Congrats Brecht! That's really exciting. Good work and best wishes!<br>
<br>
On Saturday, June 14, 2014, Girish Ramesh <<a href="mailto:rgirish28@gmail.com">rgirish28@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Congratulations Brecht. Wish you all the best and thank you for all the<br>
> support and constant development for Cycles and Blender!<br>
><br>
> Cheers!<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 14 June 2014 13:01, Brecht Van Lommel <<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a><br>
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>');>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
>> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
>> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
>> other developers.<br>
>><br>
>> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
>> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
>> coming.<br>
>><br>
>> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
>> volunteer.<br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
>> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
>> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
>> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Brecht.<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a>');><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
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--<br>
Jonathan Williamson<br>
<a href="http://cgcookie.com" target="_blank">http://cgcookie.com</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 13:10:54 +0100<br>
From: Nazim Mer <<a href="mailto:nazim.mer@gmail.com">nazim.mer@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Congratulations Brecht, and thanks for all the fantastic work,<br>
you've achieved and gave to blender.<br>
<br>
Best Wishes...<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14 June 2014 13:05, Jonathan Williamson <<a href="mailto:jonathan@cgcookie.com">jonathan@cgcookie.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Congrats Brecht! That's really exciting. Good work and best wishes!<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Saturday, June 14, 2014, Girish Ramesh <<a href="mailto:rgirish28@gmail.com">rgirish28@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Congratulations Brecht. Wish you all the best and thank you for all the<br>
>> support and constant development for Cycles and Blender!<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers!<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 14 June 2014 13:01, Brecht Van Lommel <<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hi all,<br>
>>><br>
>>> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
>>> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
>>> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
>>> other developers.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
>>> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
>>> coming.<br>
>>><br>
>>> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
>>> volunteer.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
>>> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
>>> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
>>> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> Brecht.<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Jonathan Williamson<br>
> <a href="http://cgcookie.com" target="_blank">http://cgcookie.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:29:16 +0200<br>
From: Sebastian R?thlisberger <<a href="mailto:lalli@gmx.net">lalli@gmx.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Thank you Brecht for all your Work you?ve done for Blender. Hope you will have a great time @ Solid Angle.<br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 22:37:58 +1000<br>
From: Matt Ebb <<a href="mailto:matt@mke3.net">matt@mke3.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Congratulations Brecht, I'm sure it will be a very rewarding experience.<br>
You deserve it.<br>
<br>
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On 14 June 2014 22:29, Sebastian R?thlisberger <<a href="mailto:lalli@gmx.net">lalli@gmx.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Thank you Brecht for all your Work you?ve done for Blender. Hope you will<br>
> have a great time @ Solid Angle.<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:39:59 +0000<br>
From: Marco G <<a href="mailto:digitalbath86@hotmail.com">digitalbath86@hotmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>><br>
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Cycles had a major role in switching to Blender for my work.<br>
I'm sure that's a super good place for you being among the top developers around.Thanks for everything you've done and congratulation.<br>
MG<br>
<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a><br>
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:01:36 +0200<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> Subject: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:43:34 +0200<br>
From: Greg Zaal <<a href="mailto:gregzzmail@gmail.com">gregzzmail@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Same here - Cycles is probably what caused me to become interested in<br>
shading/lighting/rendering, which is now my profession. So you could say I<br>
owe you my job ;)<br>
<br>
Thanks for all your work Brecht!<br>
<br>
-Greg<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14 June 2014 14:39, Marco G <<a href="mailto:digitalbath86@hotmail.com">digitalbath86@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Cycles had a major role in switching to Blender for my work.<br>
><br>
> I'm sure that's a super good place for you being among the top developers<br>
> around.<br>
> Thanks for everything you've done and congratulation.<br>
><br>
> MG<br>
><br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a><br>
> > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:01:36 +0200<br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> > Subject: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Hi all,<br>
> ><br>
> > In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> > renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> > features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> > other developers.<br>
> ><br>
> > Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> > by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> > coming.<br>
> ><br>
> > As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
> volunteer.<br>
> ><br>
> > Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> > Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> > source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> > all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Brecht.<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:01:05 +0200<br>
From: Thomas Beck <<a href="mailto:software@plasmasolutions.de">software@plasmasolutions.de</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Thanks so much for all your ideas, contributions and work in and around<br>
Blender - we'll miss you, Brecht!<br>
<br>
<br>
2014-06-14 14:43 GMT+02:00 Greg Zaal <<a href="mailto:gregzzmail@gmail.com">gregzzmail@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
> Same here - Cycles is probably what caused me to become interested in<br>
> shading/lighting/rendering, which is now my profession. So you could say I<br>
> owe you my job ;)<br>
><br>
> Thanks for all your work Brecht!<br>
><br>
> -Greg<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 14 June 2014 14:39, Marco G <<a href="mailto:digitalbath86@hotmail.com">digitalbath86@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Cycles had a major role in switching to Blender for my work.<br>
>><br>
>> I'm sure that's a super good place for you being among the top developers<br>
>> around.<br>
>> Thanks for everything you've done and congratulation.<br>
>><br>
>> MG<br>
>><br>
>> > From: <a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a><br>
>> > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:01:36 +0200<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> > Subject: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
>><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi all,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
>> > renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
>> > features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
>> > other developers.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
>> > by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
>> > coming.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
>> volunteer.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
>> > Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
>> > source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
>> > all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks,<br>
>> > Brecht.<br>
>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>> > Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> > <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 10:06:35 -0300<br>
From: David Fenner <<a href="mailto:d4vidfenner@gmail.com">d4vidfenner@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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I can't say I'm not angry at Solid Angle. Brecht! Whatever they offer you!!<br>
We'll fund raise and double it!!<br>
I'm not serious of course... but at least I would do it!<br>
Anyway brecht, thanks for everything, I hope your great ideas don't get<br>
inside Arnold forever, good luck and I hope you have a great time, I'm sure<br>
you will.<br>
<br>
<br>
2014-06-14 10:01 GMT-03:00 Thomas Beck <<a href="mailto:software@plasmasolutions.de">software@plasmasolutions.de</a>>:<br>
<br>
> Thanks so much for all your ideas, contributions and work in and around<br>
> Blender - we'll miss you, Brecht!<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2014-06-14 14:43 GMT+02:00 Greg Zaal <<a href="mailto:gregzzmail@gmail.com">gregzzmail@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
> Same here - Cycles is probably what caused me to become interested in<br>
>> shading/lighting/rendering, which is now my profession. So you could say I<br>
>> owe you my job ;)<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for all your work Brecht!<br>
>><br>
>> -Greg<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 14 June 2014 14:39, Marco G <<a href="mailto:digitalbath86@hotmail.com">digitalbath86@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Cycles had a major role in switching to Blender for my work.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I'm sure that's a super good place for you being among the top<br>
>>> developers around.<br>
>>> Thanks for everything you've done and congratulation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> MG<br>
>>><br>
>>> > From: <a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a><br>
>>> > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 14:01:36 +0200<br>
>>> > To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>>> > Subject: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
>>><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hi all,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
>>> > renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
>>> > features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
>>> > other developers.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
>>> > by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
>>> > coming.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
>>> volunteer.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
>>> > Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
>>> > source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
>>> > all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Thanks,<br>
>>> > Brecht.<br>
>>> > _______________________________________________<br>
>>> > Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>>> > <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>>> > <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
><br>
> ------<br>
> Plasmasolutions<br>
> Design | Development | Training<br>
><br>
> Website: <a href="Http://www.plasmasolutions.de" target="_blank">Http://www.plasmasolutions.de</a> <<a href="http://www.plasmasolutions.de/" target="_blank">http://www.plasmasolutions.de/</a>><br>
> Blog: <a href="Http://blog.plasmasolutions.de" target="_blank">Http://blog.plasmasolutions.de</a> <<a href="http://blog.plasmasolutions.de/" target="_blank">http://blog.plasmasolutions.de/</a>><br>
><br>
> Telefon: 0176 2017 9565<br>
><br>
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> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:19:23 +0200<br>
From: Le Jardin Digital <<a href="mailto:contact@lejardindigital.fr">contact@lejardindigital.fr</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Congrats and many thanks for your amazing work on cycles Brecht.<br>
Do you have a date for the arnold-for-blender version :)) ?<br>
<br>
Le 14/06/2014 14:01, Brecht Van Lommel a ?crit :<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:47:43 +0200<br>
From: Hadrien Brissaud <<a href="mailto:hadriscus@gmail.com">hadriscus@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Bravo and thanks a lot for your hard work ! Have a blast at SolidAngle. :)<br>
<br>
Hadrien<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14 June 2014 15:19, Le Jardin Digital <<a href="mailto:contact@lejardindigital.fr">contact@lejardindigital.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Congrats and many thanks for your amazing work on cycles Brecht.<br>
> Do you have a date for the arnold-for-blender version :)) ?<br>
><br>
> Le 14/06/2014 14:01, Brecht Van Lommel a ?crit :<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing listBf-cycles@blender.orghttp://<a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:10:51 -0300<br>
From: Adriano Oliveira <<a href="mailto:adriano.ufrb@gmail.com">adriano.ufrb@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Thank you for Cycles!<br>
<br>
<br>
Adriano A. Oliveira<br>
<br>
<br>
2014-06-14 10:47 GMT-03:00 Hadrien Brissaud <<a href="mailto:hadriscus@gmail.com">hadriscus@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
> Bravo and thanks a lot for your hard work ! Have a blast at SolidAngle. :)<br>
><br>
> Hadrien<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 14 June 2014 15:19, Le Jardin Digital <<a href="mailto:contact@lejardindigital.fr">contact@lejardindigital.fr</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Congrats and many thanks for your amazing work on cycles Brecht.<br>
>> Do you have a date for the arnold-for-blender version :)) ?<br>
>><br>
>> Le 14/06/2014 14:01, Brecht Van Lommel a ?crit :<br>
>><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
>> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
>> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
>> other developers.<br>
>><br>
>> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
>> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
>> coming.<br>
>><br>
>> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
>> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
>> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
>> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Brecht.<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Bf-cycles mailing listBf-cycles@blender.orghttp://<a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:11:09 +0100<br>
From: David Black <<a href="mailto:db4tech@yahoo.co.uk">db4tech@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Hi Brecht,<br>
<br>
I am really happy for you, you are extremely talented, very hard working<br>
and deserve to do well. I am also very sad to see you go, it was only a<br>
matter of time.<br>
<br>
Wonder if we will suddenly gain a new Cycles developer user-name Trechb<br>
;) (don't read too hard into this!)<br>
<br>
Your outstanding contributions to Blender will never be forgotten.<br>
<br>
Hope things go really well for you.<br>
Take care,<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="http://3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com" target="_blank">3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://www.3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com</a>><br>
<br>
On 14/06/2014 13:01, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:20:36 -0400<br>
From: Nicholas Bishop <<a href="mailto:nicholasbishop@gmail.com">nicholasbishop@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Congratulations Brecht, good luck at Solid Angle!<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 10:11 AM, David Black <<a href="mailto:db4tech@yahoo.co.uk">db4tech@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Brecht,<br>
><br>
> I am really happy for you, you are extremely talented, very hard working and<br>
> deserve to do well. I am also very sad to see you go, it was only a matter<br>
> of time.<br>
><br>
> Wonder if we will suddenly gain a new Cycles developer user-name Trechb ;)<br>
> (don't read too hard into this!)<br>
><br>
> Your outstanding contributions to Blender will never be forgotten.<br>
><br>
> Hope things go really well for you.<br>
> Take care,<br>
><br>
> David<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com" target="_blank">3d-designs-davidblack.blogspot.com</a><br>
><br>
> On 14/06/2014 13:01, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
> volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
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Message: 16<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 17:26:23 +0200<br>
From: Ton Roosendaal <<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org">ton@blender.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:6E73E2F2-CB1D-475B-ADDA-3CF0E4E06931@blender.org">6E73E2F2-CB1D-475B-ADDA-3CF0E4E06931@blender.org</a>><br>
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Hi Brecht,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the kind words :) Your Blender and Cycles work will never be forgotten, and you're welcome in the Blender projects anytime, in any way you prefer to. I wish you a lot of fun, inspiration, great collegues and new friends in that exciting challenging working environment there in Madrid!<br>
<br>
To the others here: Brecht already told me this a while ago, he has been very responsible by wrapping up his todo list so well. Cycles is in a pristine condition, a joy for any new render coder to play with and become active for Blender. I'm confident we will find new developers here, sooner or later!<br>
<br>
Meanwhile I've asked Sergey to step in for some more hardcore maintenance there, especially on the raytracing and optimization topic. He's been briefed well by Brecht and I expect cool things to happen there this year.<br>
<br>
For everyone who's active with Blender, or employed by Blender Institute or Foundation, I'm always very relaxed and open to discuss and support new challenges and career steps. I fully understand that people want to keep growing and learning. In SolidAngle, Brecht will be working with people who are the top of the world in render system design and development. Any render developer would love to be there! I can fully see how exciting it is to now have a team where you can learn from, and even can look up to in many areas.<br>
<br>
Good luck Brecht, I hope you're going to have an amazing time!<br>
<br>
-Ton-<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------------------------<br>
Ton Roosendaal - <a href="mailto:ton@blender.org">ton@blender.org</a> - <a href="http://www.blender.org" target="_blank">www.blender.org</a><br>
Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute<br>
Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14 Jun, 2014, at 14:01, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
<br>
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Message: 17<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 10:14:00 -0600<br>
From: "Daniel Salazar - <a href="http://patazstudio.com" target="_blank">patazstudio.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:zanqdo@gmail.com">zanqdo@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<<a href="mailto:CABdDwP857g8ciSZecbboi5BQQ_wamvJSbsZsO_4gY_mnTKKP1g@mail.gmail.com">CABdDwP857g8ciSZecbboi5BQQ_wamvJSbsZsO_4gY_mnTKKP1g@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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<br>
Congratulations Brecht and thanks for everything, I hope to meet you<br>
one day soon and buy you a few beers :D<br>
<br>
always grateful,<br>
<br>
Daniel Salazar<br>
<a href="http://patazstudio.com" target="_blank">patazstudio.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Ton Roosendaal <<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org">ton@blender.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Brecht,<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the kind words :) Your Blender and Cycles work will never be forgotten, and you're welcome in the Blender projects anytime, in any way you prefer to. I wish you a lot of fun, inspiration, great collegues and new friends in that exciting challenging working environment there in Madrid!<br>
><br>
> To the others here: Brecht already told me this a while ago, he has been very responsible by wrapping up his todo list so well. Cycles is in a pristine condition, a joy for any new render coder to play with and become active for Blender. I'm confident we will find new developers here, sooner or later!<br>
><br>
> Meanwhile I've asked Sergey to step in for some more hardcore maintenance there, especially on the raytracing and optimization topic. He's been briefed well by Brecht and I expect cool things to happen there this year.<br>
><br>
> For everyone who's active with Blender, or employed by Blender Institute or Foundation, I'm always very relaxed and open to discuss and support new challenges and career steps. I fully understand that people want to keep growing and learning. In SolidAngle, Brecht will be working with people who are the top of the world in render system design and development. Any render developer would love to be there! I can fully see how exciting it is to now have a team where you can learn from, and even can look up to in many areas.<br>
><br>
> Good luck Brecht, I hope you're going to have an amazing time!<br>
><br>
> -Ton-<br>
><br>
> --------------------------------------------------------<br>
> Ton Roosendaal - <a href="mailto:ton@blender.org">ton@blender.org</a> - <a href="http://www.blender.org" target="_blank">www.blender.org</a><br>
> Chairman Blender Foundation - Producer Blender Institute<br>
> Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 14 Jun, 2014, at 14:01, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
>> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
>> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
>> other developers.<br>
>><br>
>> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
>> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
>> coming.<br>
>><br>
>> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
>><br>
>> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
>> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
>> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
>> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Brecht.<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
>> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Message: 18<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:19:42 +0300 (EAT)<br>
From: Steve Obbayi <<a href="mailto:steve@sobbayi.com">steve@sobbayi.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <19387609.754.1402762777944.JavaMail."Steve<br>
Obbayi"@obbayi><br>
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Congratulations Bretch. No amount of words can express how you impacted the lives of<br>
many. Blender is in a better place because of you<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
| From: "Brecht Van Lommel" <<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>><br>
| To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
| Sent: S?bado, 14 de Junio 2014 13:01:36<br>
| Subject: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
|<br>
| Hi all,<br>
|<br>
| In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
| renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add<br>
| new<br>
| features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
| other developers.<br>
|<br>
| Many important features in past releases have already been<br>
| implemented<br>
| by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
| coming.<br>
|<br>
| As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
| volunteer.<br>
|<br>
| Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
| Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
| source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see<br>
| you<br>
| all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
|<br>
| Thanks,<br>
| Brecht.<br>
| _______________________________________________<br>
| Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
| <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
| <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
|<br>
<br>
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Message: 19<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:20:26 +0200<br>
From: Gottfried Hofmann <<a href="mailto:gottfried@blenderdiplom.com">gottfried@blenderdiplom.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:539C845A.60608@blenderdiplom.com">539C845A.60608@blenderdiplom.com</a>><br>
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Hi Brecht,<br>
<br>
congratulations on your new job, from the outside it looks like working<br>
at SA is a dream job for every render engine developer. I wish you all<br>
the best and once again thank for all the work you put into Cycles and<br>
Blender in general over all those years!<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Gottfried<br>
<br>
<br>
On 06/14/2014 02:01 PM, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
><br>
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Message: 20<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 19:44:46 +0200<br>
From: J?rgen Herrmann <<a href="mailto:shadowrom@me.com">shadowrom@me.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:0N7600KYQ6NQOZ20@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com">0N7600KYQ6NQOZ20@nk11p00mm-asmtp004.mac.com</a>><br>
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Hey Brecht,<br>
<br>
I wish you all the best in your new job. You have done so much for blender in the past years.<br>
<br>
I hope we'll hear from you often.<br>
<br>
"So long, and thanks for all the fish"<br>
<br>
/J?rgen<br>
<br>
----- Urspr?ngliche Nachricht -----<br>
Von: "Brecht Van Lommel" <<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>><br>
Gesendet: ?14.?06.?2014 14:02<br>
An: "<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>><br>
Betreff: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
other developers.<br>
<br>
Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
coming.<br>
<br>
As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a volunteer.<br>
<br>
Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Brecht.<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
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Message: 21<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 12:21:56 -0700<br>
From: "<a href="mailto:pauloperbone@yahoo.com">pauloperbone@yahoo.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:pauloperbone@yahoo.com">pauloperbone@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>><br>
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Message: 22<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:50:51 -0400<br>
From: Dan McGrath <<a href="mailto:danmcgrath.ca@gmail.com">danmcgrath.ca@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID:<br>
<CAK82gMGzGvu9pOTnJ8PfhW5u-id2Xrbmx-FcM3pYKxqP=<a href="mailto:973vA@mail.gmail.com">973vA@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>
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Heya,<br>
<br>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo...............!<br>
<br>
Well, thanks for the awesome render engine, and good luck at your new job<br>
working on another one! I will be curious how many "ahhh, why didn't I<br>
think of that?!" there will be when you get to see how Arnold does things :)<br>
<br>
Take care o/<br>
<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Brecht Van Lommel <<br>
<a href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> In July I will start a new job at Solid Angle, working on the Arnold<br>
> renderer. This unfortunately means I will no longer be able to add new<br>
> features to Cycles, though I'll still be around and happy to assist<br>
> other developers.<br>
><br>
> Many important features in past releases have already been implemented<br>
> by other contributors, and I expect that the improvements will keep<br>
> coming.<br>
><br>
> As for other Blender development, I'll continue to be involved as a<br>
> volunteer.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks to all contributors and users. I'm especially grateful to<br>
> Ton for supporting my work on Cycles. I think we have pushed open<br>
> source production rendering quite a bit further, and I hope to see you<br>
> all continue doing awesome things with Cycles.<br>
><br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Brecht.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Bf-cycles mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Bf-cycles@blender.org">Bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
> <a href="http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles" target="_blank">http://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-cycles</a><br>
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Message: 23<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 23:16:00 +0200<br>
From: Gottfried Hofmann <<a href="mailto:gottfried@blenderdiplom.com">gottfried@blenderdiplom.com</a>><br>
Subject: [Bf-cycles] Camera Ray is also Singular Ray?<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a>><br>
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Hello Cycles Dev Team,<br>
<br>
according to Wiki, the "Singular Ray" is a property of reflection- or<br>
transmission-rays:<br>
<a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.6/Manual/Render/Cycles/Light_Paths#Ray_Types" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.6/Manual/Render/Cycles/Light_Paths#Ray_Types</a><br>
<br>
But according to my tests, a ray coming directly from the camera is also<br>
a singular ray.<br>
<br>
Is this the intended behavior? According to the OSL spec, singular is a<br>
property triggered by a scattering event, so a ray coming directly from<br>
the camera should not be singular:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://code.google.com/p/openshadinglanguage/wiki/LightPathExpressions" target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/openshadinglanguage/wiki/LightPathExpressions</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Gottfried<br>
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Message: 24<br>
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 04:28:30 +0400<br>
From: storm <<a href="mailto:kartochka22@yandex.ru">kartochka22@yandex.ru</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Camera Ray is also Singular Ray?<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bf-cycles@blender.org">bf-cycles@blender.org</a><br>
Message-ID: <1402792110.2770.9.camel@fast19><br>
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? ??, 14/06/2014 ? 23:16 +0200, Gottfried Hofmann ?????:<br>
> Hello Cycles Dev Team,<br>
><br>
> according to Wiki, the "Singular Ray" is a property of reflection- or<br>
> transmission-rays:<br>
> <a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.6/Manual/Render/Cycles/Light_Paths#Ray_Types" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Doc:2.6/Manual/Render/Cycles/Light_Paths#Ray_Types</a><br>
><br>
> But according to my tests, a ray coming directly from the camera is also<br>
> a singular ray.<br>
><br>
> Is this the intended behavior? According to the OSL spec, singular is a<br>
> property triggered by a scattering event, so a ray coming directly from<br>
> the camera should not be singular:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://code.google.com/p/openshadinglanguage/wiki/LightPathExpressions" target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/openshadinglanguage/wiki/LightPathExpressions</a><br>
><br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Gottfried<br>
><br>
<br>
Singular mean that segment can be only connected in one way, so we have<br>
no oportunity to connect vertices by sampling something else. Like<br>
laser, or perfect mirror, or perspective camera. You can think in term<br>
"specular" and "diffuse" verices as in many paper like Veach<br>
dissertation.<br>
<br>
Opposite example, diffusion to diffusion surface, or diffusion and<br>
glossy with "Roughness" > 0 can be connected by many ways (sample<br>
surface at other points), so we can use MIS or other tricks to reduce<br>
noise w/o making bias.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 04:36:32 +0400<br>
From: storm <<a href="mailto:kartochka22@yandex.ru">kartochka22@yandex.ru</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Any chance to go back to GPL for Cycles, as with very tight concurrency<br>
in commercial render market anyone can rip and resell Cycles just<br>
replacing 2 lines of code w/o any chance for Bledner team to prevent it<br>
by legal action?<br>
<br>
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Message: 26<br>
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2014 20:38:24 -0400<br>
From: Matthew Heimlich <<a href="mailto:matt.heimlich@gmail.com">matt.heimlich@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Personally, I wouldn't okay my code within Cycles to go back to GPL, and<br>
I'm pretty sure Brecht wouldn't either. Obviously his code would be a lot<br>
harder to replace than mine.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM, storm <<a href="mailto:kartochka22@yandex.ru">kartochka22@yandex.ru</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Any chance to go back to GPL for Cycles, as with very tight concurrency<br>
> in commercial render market anyone can rip and resell Cycles just<br>
> replacing 2 lines of code w/o any chance for Bledner team to prevent it<br>
> by legal action?<br>
><br>
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Message: 27<br>
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 11:29:44 +0200<br>
From: Ton Roosendaal <<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org">ton@blender.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-cycles] Starting a new job<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Apache code can be simply converted to GPL without original author permissions, just not the other way around.<br>
<br>
I don't see any reasons to mark the move to become Apache for Cycles as a problem or a failure. Such decisions we should also do based on wide consensus by the active contributors. As far as I know, they are all happy with Apache.<br>
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If that changes we'll tackle it.<br>
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-Ton-<br>
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Entrepotdok 57A - 1018AD Amsterdam - The Netherlands<br>
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On 15 Jun, 2014, at 2:38, Matthew Heimlich wrote:<br>
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> Personally, I wouldn't okay my code within Cycles to go back to GPL, and I'm pretty sure Brecht wouldn't either. Obviously his code would be a lot harder to replace than mine.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 8:36 PM, storm <<a href="mailto:kartochka22@yandex.ru">kartochka22@yandex.ru</a>> wrote:<br>
> Any chance to go back to GPL for Cycles, as with very tight concurrency<br>
> in commercial render market anyone can rip and resell Cycles just<br>
> replacing 2 lines of code w/o any chance for Bledner team to prevent it<br>
> by legal action?<br>
><br>
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