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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
      thanks for all the feedback.<br>
      I commited a improved version of all that now, and it should make
      some things easier to understand.<br>
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      Best regards,<br>
      Thomas<br>
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      Am 22.08.2013 21:35, schrieb Greg Zaal:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">It should definitely be added to the Progressive
        integrator as well. That's pretty much all I use and it'd be
        very welcome. The idea that it shouldn't be added for the
        progressive integrator could equally be argued against the
        non-progressive too.
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        <div>As for the labeling, the simplest is usually the best. Just
          #<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">&sup2;
            is fine by me. A label to display anything more is a bit
            redundant, since after reading just the tooltip it's clear
            what happens and the user does the math themselves to see
            how many diffuse samples will be done. Though having never
            really used the non-progressive integrator I don't know how
            confusing it could get. One or two lines below showing the
            totals of each sample type would be just fine anyway.</span></div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 22 August 2013 17:51, Brecht Van
            Lommel <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:brechtvanlommel@pandora.be" target="_blank">brechtvanlommel@pandora.be</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think
              this option should definitely work for both progressive
              and<br>
              non-progressive mode. I do not think progressive
              refinement should<br>
              influence this design decision, using it together with
              non-progressive<br>
              mode should work fine, we just have to do some renaming to
              clear up<br>
              the confusion.<br>
              <br>
              I don't really have a suggestion for the label, but would
              be nice if<br>
              it was just a single compact line.<br>
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                  On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Matthew Heimlich<br>
                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:matt.heimlich@gmail.com">matt.heimlich@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  &gt; As you know, I like the renaming and label ideas,
                  but don't think it makes<br>
                  &gt; any sense to have square samples enabled for
                  progressive rendering at all.<br>
                  &gt; Exact values for sampling are rarely ever used or
                  needed when progressively<br>
                  &gt; rendering, so it would just be more UI clutter,
                  IMO. There's a difference<br>
                  &gt; between a set of values in non-progressive mode
                  purposely chosen for your<br>
                  &gt; unique scene and materials therein, and a single
                  value that you let run<br>
                  &gt; until things are clean enough.<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Dinges
                  &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:blender@dingto.org">blender@dingto.org</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
                  &gt;&gt; I discussed the implementation with our
                  artist module members Greg and<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Matt, also got some feedback from Brecht.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; But I am still not sure how to proceed.
                  Suggested changes:<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; * Re-enable for Progressive integrator again,
                  for consistency.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; * Rename property to "Square Samples"
                  (present tense), so it's a bit<br>
                  &gt;&gt; more clear that the action is not already
                  done.<br>
                  &gt;&gt; * Add a label which displays the total amount
                  of Samples. It would be<br>
                  &gt;&gt; nice to do this per ray type for the
                  Non-Progressive integrator, like:<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Total AA Samples = AA&sup2;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Total Diffuse Samples (Diffuse&sup2; * AA&sup2;)<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; but I don't want to waste much space either
                  in the Sampling panel.<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Ideas and improvements how this could be
                  tackled are welcome.<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Thomas<br>
                  &gt;&gt;<br>
                  &gt;&gt; --<br>
                  &gt;&gt; Thomas Dinges<br>
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