<div dir="ltr">Hey Diego,<div>I successfully added the driver,</div><div>I got the problem in the path of the RGB.. </div><div>Here the picture I made to explain the problem:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k6GDiWl4uNU/U4XRy1AzQ_I/AAAAAAAAJy8/C-xuqUDrNKM/w1357-h784-no/value.jpg">https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k6GDiWl4uNU/U4XRy1AzQ_I/AAAAAAAAJy8/C-xuqUDrNKM/w1357-h784-no/value.jpg</a><br>
</div><div> </div><div>I forgot to open the panel in the left of the drivers ..</div><div> I'm working on the red channel of the ramp and I was trying to evaluate the red value of the RGB node that is perfectly showed in the python console but as you can see return a red background on the path of the driver....</div>
<div><br></div><div>Am I missing something?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-28 13:15 GMT+02:00 Diego Gangl <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dnicolas@gmail.com" target="_blank">dnicolas@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey,<br>
<br>
Nice work on those nodegroups, I'd like to see them too. It would be<br>
great to have some kind of standard library of nodes for motion/video<br>
work in the compositor with stuff like this.<br>
<br>
Francesco,<br>
Have you tried the outliner workaround for problem #2? You'd have to<br>
find the node in the outliner, then the socket, select it and press D<br>
to add the driver. Btw, it doesn't change color in the ui sometimes.<br>
<br>
I tried the nodes addon but I get a missing paths error, maybe it<br>
hasn't been updated?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
2014-05-28 7:15 GMT-03:00 Francesco Paglia <<a href="mailto:f.paglia.80@gmail.com">f.paglia.80@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Hey Sean,<br>
> I'm really interested in seeing your node and much more on the match color<br>
> node...<br>
> I've tried by myself making one but I couldn't find a nice way to have the<br>
> setup embedded in a node group.<br>
><br>
> Looking at the tutorial the artist simply match low and hi valuse of a<br>
> levels effects for each channel.<br>
> So I though I can mimic that result just with a simple setup:<br>
> 1. separate RGB of the input,<br>
> 2. add a color ramp to each channel (to get a remap of Hi and LOW value)<br>
> 3. add a combine channel to recreate the final image<br>
><br>
> The result looked promising but<br>
> 1. to expose the value of the ramp you have to add a driver on each stop of<br>
> the ramp<br>
> 2. the driver (don't know why) in official 2.70 build seems cannot read the<br>
> value of a node RGB.output or the input of the group even if it is readable<br>
> in the python console (the driver simply show the path background in red<br>
> color)<br>
> 3. value are clamped in the 0-1 range so if values exceed this range they<br>
> are remapped.. (well this is a known side effect driven by the node used...)<br>
><br>
> I'm curious to know your approach :)<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Francesco<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2014-05-28 7:57 GMT+02:00 David McSween <<a href="mailto:3pointedit@gmail.com">3pointedit@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
>> I would certainly be interested in a 'colour matcher' node group.<br>
>> Especially if it Rock My World as Mark says in the link ;-)<br>
>><br>
>> These look really useful, it would be great if everyone could at least<br>
>> match pedestal across their elements.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Sean Kennedy <<a href="mailto:mack_dadd2@hotmail.com">mack_dadd2@hotmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hey guys,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I made a few nodegroups we were discussing.<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/uj9kw6dm1sp3cot/clamp_nodes_screenshot_02.jpg" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/s/uj9kw6dm1sp3cot/clamp_nodes_screenshot_02.jpg</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> I made a Value clamp, as Deigo had made. Then I made a RGB clamp, where<br>
>>> you can set R, G, and B individually. And then I made the node I really<br>
>>> wanted, a black levels node.<br>
>>><br>
>>> When you're compositing one image over another, and they come from two<br>
>>> different sources, they usually have completely different color values in<br>
>>> the highs and lows (obviously, we all know this). At R&H, we had a great<br>
>>> Black Levels node where we could simply sample a dark spot of a background<br>
>>> plate, and the darks of the foreground plate would just shift to match. This<br>
>>> works the same exact way. It was ideal for CG elements going over live<br>
>>> action plates, because usually the general highs and overall color of the CG<br>
>>> matched the plate fine, but the blacks always came in as absolute blacks, or<br>
>>> sometimes negative blacks. This node made fixing it a 1-click operation.<br>
>>><br>
>>> If anyone is interested, I can upload a blend file with the nodegroups.<br>
>>> The clamps are super easy to make, though. But maybe the black levels one<br>
>>> would be interesting to someone?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Tomorrow I'm going make a node setup to easily replicate Mark<br>
>>> Christiansen's techniques for matching the general colors of one plate to<br>
>>> another. You can see the technique here in the free sample videos, if you're<br>
>>> interested.<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.lynda.com/After-Effects-tutorials/After-Effects-Compositing-Essentials-Matching-Foreground-Background/114913-2.html" target="_blank">http://www.lynda.com/After-Effects-tutorials/After-Effects-Compositing-Essentials-Matching-Foreground-Background/114913-2.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> It's fun making these!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sean<br>
>>><br>
>>> ________________________________<br>
>>> From: <a href="mailto:f.paglia.80@gmail.com">f.paglia.80@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 09:50:01 +0200<br>
>>> To: <a href="mailto:bf-compositor@blender.org">bf-compositor@blender.org</a><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [Bf-compositor] Clamping (Mix, Math, RGB Curves)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Thanks for the advices Diego and David!<br>
>>> Just a little thought:<br>
>>> Adding lot of nodegroups in a single "category" - I mean in the same menu<br>
>>> list - isn't that efficient... is there a way to manage their position in<br>
>>> the SHIFT+A menu?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Referenced node group are quite "risky" since compositing session works<br>
>>> most likely WYSIWYG and as soon as you change something you have to check<br>
>>> back each project... but I get your point Diego... I'm very used to linked<br>
>>> group, they are so useful and I hope they will be empowered a lot with<br>
>>> gooseberry since Proxyfication have room for for lot of improvement.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2014-05-25 4:26 GMT+02:00 David McSween <<a href="mailto:3pointedit@gmail.com">3pointedit@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Don't forget the addon Node Presets<br>
>>> <a href="http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Compositing/Compositing_Presets" target="_blank">http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Compositing/Compositing_Presets</a><br>
>>> I think you can add node groups and store them in a portable file.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 25 May 2014 09:59, "Diego Gangl" <<a href="mailto:dnicolas@gmail.com">dnicolas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> >> It is possible to clamp (blacks and whites individually even), but<br>
>>> >> whenever I want to do it I have to add gazillion nodes. It takes time.<br>
>>> >> My<br>
>>> >> intention is to make it with a single click.<br>
>>><br>
>>> You can turn them into a group, plug the math values into group<br>
>>> inputs, name it and bam! your own Clamp Node that you can add from the<br>
>>> group menu.<br>
>>><br>
>>> > Isn't there a way to develop few nodegroup store them somewhere and<br>
>>> > recall<br>
>>> > them in a personal group list or add them in the lists we already have?<br>
>>><br>
>>> There's two ways:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1- Make the groups in a new (empty) blend file, then save it as your<br>
>>> start-up file (ctrl+U). The node groups will be available in every new<br>
>>> file you make.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2- Make a "Node Library" file. Make all your groups there, then make a<br>
>>> new empty file and link all the groups from the library file. Save it<br>
>>> as your start-up file and you get all the groups. The cool thing is<br>
>>> that if you tweak the groups inside the lib file, they will be upated<br>
>>> in all the blend files that link them.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Gooseberry is going to bring a lot of developement into asset<br>
>>> management, so it will get better.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> 2014-05-24 7:00 GMT-03:00 Francesco Paglia <<a href="mailto:f.paglia.80@gmail.com">f.paglia.80@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>> > Isn't there a way to develop few nodegroup store them somewhere and<br>
>>> > recall<br>
>>> > them in a personal group list or add them in the lists we already have?<br>
>>> > Could it be a python add-on?<br>
>>> > This would help us skip the tedious part of reloading those node every<br>
>>> > time<br>
>>> > a new blend file is created and also could help us distribute those<br>
>>> > nodes in<br>
>>> > their coherent place.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > 2014-05-24 11:31 GMT+02:00 Bartek Skorupa (priv)<br>
>>> > <<a href="mailto:bartekskorupa@bartekskorupa.com">bartekskorupa@bartekskorupa.com</a>>:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> It is possible to clamp (blacks and whites individually even), but<br>
>>> >> whenever I want to do it I have to add gazillion nodes. It takes time.<br>
>>> >> My<br>
>>> >> intention is to make it with a single click.<br>
>>> >> How much time did it take you to set up this fantastic node tree of<br>
>>> >> yours?<br>
>>> >> If it's more than one second - itś too much. It should be: Decision =><br>
>>> >> 1<br>
>>> >> second later: DONE.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Bartek Skorupa<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> <a href="http://www.bartekskorupa.com" target="_blank">www.bartekskorupa.com</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> On 24 maj 2014, at 00:10, Sean Kennedy <<a href="mailto:mack_dadd2@hotmail.com">mack_dadd2@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Ah, great idea! We could even set one up with RGB, one on each<br>
>>> >> channel,<br>
>>> >> and save it as a nodegroup.<br>
>>> >> Thanks! So obvious, don't know why we didn't think of this. :)<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I'm going to set one up today.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> sean<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> > From: <a href="mailto:dnicolas@gmail.com">dnicolas@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> >> > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 19:07:28 -0300<br>
>>> >> > To: <a href="mailto:bf-compositor@blender.org">bf-compositor@blender.org</a><br>
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Bf-compositor] Clamping (Mix, Math, RGB Curves)<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > Hi all, I don't know how Blender's handles colors internally but<br>
>>> >> > wouldn't this work?<br>
>>> >> > <a href="http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=71736" target="_blank">http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=71736</a><br>
>>> >> > (or are the V values already mapped to 0-1 from the separate node?)<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > Cheers,<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > 2014-05-23 18:46 GMT-03:00 Sean Kennedy <<a href="mailto:mack_dadd2@hotmail.com">mack_dadd2@hotmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>> >> > > Could we set the value of the clamp? It could come in as defaults<br>
>>> >> > > of<br>
>>> >> > > 1.0 and<br>
>>> >> > > 0.0, but we could alter it to whatever we wanted. At R&H, most of<br>
>>> >> > > the<br>
>>> >> > > time<br>
>>> >> > > we clamped brights around 14-16. We'd only turn it down under that<br>
>>> >> > > if<br>
>>> >> > > we got<br>
>>> >> > > bad pixels when rendering.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > If you had a superbright red, like R 12, G 3, B 4, and you put a<br>
>>> >> > > clamp<br>
>>> >> > > of 1<br>
>>> >> > > on it, obviously it's going to set each value to 1, so what was<br>
>>> >> > > red<br>
>>> >> > > now<br>
>>> >> > > reads as white. But it would still be useful.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > After Effects clamp tool<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > > ><a href="http://cdn.aescripts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/f/t/ft-clamp-ui_1.png" target="_blank">http://cdn.aescripts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/f/t/ft-clamp-ui_1.png</a><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > Nuke clamp is in the color grade node<br>
>>> >> ><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > > ><a href="http://docs.thefoundry.co.uk/nuke/63/pythondevguide/_images/getMinMax_01.png" target="_blank">http://docs.thefoundry.co.uk/nuke/63/pythondevguide/_images/getMinMax_01.png</a><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > I'm not posting the images to say "this is how we should do it",<br>
>>> >> > > but<br>
>>> >> > > rather,<br>
>>> >> > > to say it is useful and professional compositors would indeed use<br>
>>> >> > > it<br>
>>> >> > > often.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > In fact, I was working on a shot this week that could have used<br>
>>> >> > > it. I<br>
>>> >> > > was<br>
>>> >> > > given stock footage from a client, and I have no idea how much<br>
>>> >> > > they'll<br>
>>> >> > > color<br>
>>> >> > > correct it in post once I deliver the final vfx shot. SO I have to<br>
>>> >> > > make sure<br>
>>> >> > > all my blacks are in line with what is in the plate. I put a gamma<br>
>>> >> > > on<br>
>>> >> > > the<br>
>>> >> > > plate just to view the black levels and see how they match up when<br>
>>> >> > > pushed<br>
>>> >> > > really far.<br>
>>> >> > ><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10553822/clamp_blacks_01.jpg" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10553822/clamp_blacks_01.jpg</a><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > Since we don't have a clamp, I ended up putting a mix node right<br>
>>> >> > > after<br>
>>> >> > > the<br>
>>> >> > > stock footage node, setting it to Lighten, and making the color<br>
>>> >> > > over<br>
>>> >> > > it<br>
>>> >> > > black. then I slowly raised it while watching until the blacks all<br>
>>> >> > > came in<br>
>>> >> > > line. Would have been much easier to sample the value of the<br>
>>> >> > > darkest<br>
>>> >> > > dark I<br>
>>> >> > > wanted in the shot, throw a clamp node on with the black clamp set<br>
>>> >> > > to<br>
>>> >> > > those<br>
>>> >> > > values.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > In fact, at R&H, the Black Clamp node let you set an individual<br>
>>> >> > > value<br>
>>> >> > > for R,<br>
>>> >> > > G, and B. And it had a color picker so you could just sample the<br>
>>> >> > > image<br>
>>> >> > > and<br>
>>> >> > > the values would fill in automatically.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > Anyway, just throwing out my $0.02. Obviously I've found a<br>
>>> >> > > workaround<br>
>>> >> > > and<br>
>>> >> > > can live with it, but it would sure be great to someday see a<br>
>>> >> > > clamp<br>
>>> >> > > node.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > ________________________________<br>
>>> >> > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:21:40 -0700<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > From: <a href="mailto:troy.sobotka@gmail.com">troy.sobotka@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> >> > > To: <a href="mailto:bf-compositor@blender.org">bf-compositor@blender.org</a><br>
>>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Bf-compositor] Clamping (Mix, Math, RGB Curves)<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > On May 23, 2014 1:56 PM, "Bartek Skorupa (priv)"<br>
>>> >> > > <<a href="mailto:bartekskorupa@bartekskorupa.com">bartekskorupa@bartekskorupa.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > >> When I say: "clamp blacks" I always mean: set every value below<br>
>>> >> > >> 0.0<br>
>>> >> > >> to<br>
>>> >> > >> 0.0.<br>
>>> >> > >> When I say: "clamp whites" I always mean: set every value above<br>
>>> >> > >> 1.0<br>
>>> >> > >> to<br>
>>> >> > >> 1.0.<br>
>>> >> > >> Every compositing artist will know what I mean.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > If we can generate a clamp / scale node, I am all for it.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > I am saying there is no concept of white in a scene referred<br>
>>> >> > > model,<br>
>>> >> > > and as<br>
>>> >> > > such, you have to be careful as to not write nodes that break the<br>
>>> >> > > system.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > It is that simple. No white. No brighter than white. So sorry,<br>
>>> >> > > "Every<br>
>>> >> > > artist..." is actually "Every artist unfamiliar with HDR work."<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > So a clamp node _must_ not make the erroneous assumption that 1.0<br>
>>> >> > > means<br>
>>> >> > > anything special, and rather provide for an arbitrary value range.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > If this all seems like speaking an alien language, it is precisely<br>
>>> >> > > why<br>
>>> >> > > I<br>
>>> >> > > chimed in and said "Whoa."<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > There are already nodes that are broken because of erroneous<br>
>>> >> > > assumptions. It<br>
>>> >> > > would be a shame to make more.<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > > With respect,<br>
>>> >> > > TJS<br>
>>> >> > ><br>
>>> >> > ><br>
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>>> > Francesco Paglia<br>
>>> > Vfx and Production Supervisor<br>
>>> ><br>
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>>> Vfx and Production Supervisor<br>
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