<p>Enable H during dragging is awesome ideas. IMO it gives more flexibility.</p>
<p>I rarely use scale either. But let see if this feature can tidying our noodle :)</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>Aditia A. Pratama<br>
<a href="http://kampoongmonster.com">http://kampoongmonster.com</a></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 28, 2013 5:14 AM, &quot;David McSween&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3pointedit@gmail.com">3pointedit@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<p dir="ltr">Hmm im often scaling groups of nodes on x axis to tidy them up for tutorials. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 28 Dec 2013 03:39, &quot;Sean Kennedy&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:mack_dadd2@hotmail.com" target="_blank">mack_dadd2@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I love the idea of making H work while dragging! </div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t scale much in the compositor, so I&#39;m not sure about the S key. </div><div><br></div><div>Sean<br><br>
Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:37 AM, &quot;Jeroen Bakker&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:j.bakker@atmind.nl" target="_blank">j.bakker@atmind.nl</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
    
  
  
    <div>Hi.<br>
      <br>
      Should it be better to make the &#39;H&#39; key work during dragging.
      Currently the H-key cancels the dragging. But enabling this you
      could start a drag and when you think you would like to have the
      folded version press the H-key if the node connects release the
      drag. Now pressing the H-key would unfold the node and everything
      is the way you want it.<br>
      <br>
      We should also check out the S-key to make it work better:<br>
      When a single node (or no node at all) is selected scale from
      center of mouse pointer with an distance like we have during
      proportional editing in the 3d view. We could also have this
      option available during drag.<br>
      <br>
      Just some thoughts.<br>
      <br>
      Jeroen.<br>
      <br>
      On 12/17/2013 01:31 AM, Sean Kennedy wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Am I correct in understanding Aditia&#39;s post is just
        requesting that in the preferences, there be a toggle for having
        nodes collapsed into their smallest view when added?
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I do often have the problem of not being able to
          drag&amp;drop a node where I want it because the wires are too
          close or the node is too big. Collapsing it solves this. I&#39;m
          not sure I like the idea of nodes being collapsed upon adding,
          though. What if there was something else, like, when you drag
          a node to move it, it auto collapses while you drag it, then
          reverts to whatever state it was in when you let go of the
          mouse button? Or maybe a keyboard shortcut for that kind of
          behavior. I&#39;m sure there&#39;s probably already a keyboard
          shortcut for collapsing the nodes, which would make all this
          discussion not relevant to my workflow. :)</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Regarding tree navigation, wouldn&#39;t an ideal solution be a
          small thumbnail node view? Photoshop and Nuke have similar
          things that work great. The photoshop one gives you that nice
          little red box to show you right where you&#39;re zoomed in at.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Nuke&#39;s (bottom right corner of the node view)</div>
        <div><a href="http://opticalenquiry.com/nuke/images/4/45/Nuke_interface_2.png" target="_blank">http://opticalenquiry.com/nuke/images/4/45/Nuke_interface_2.png</a></div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Photoshop&#39;s</div>
        <div><a href="http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/351/273/35127321_640.jpg" target="_blank">http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/351/273/35127321_640.jpg</a></div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Is there a better way you guys can think of for tree
          navigation?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>sean</div>
        <div><br>
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            <hr>Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 07:29:39 +1000<br>
            From: <a href="mailto:3pointedit@gmail.com" target="_blank">3pointedit@gmail.com</a><br>
            To: <a href="mailto:bf-compositor@blender.org" target="_blank">bf-compositor@blender.org</a><br>
            Subject: Re: [Bf-compositor] [enh] thumbnail previews + node
            border color<br>
            <br>
            <p dir="ltr">Would this Collapse feature allow you to select
              a region of nodes to shrink? It wouldn&#39;t save space as the
              nodes don&#39;t move closer when collapsed but I guess they
              are easier to follow.</p>
            <p dir="ltr">Is there a benefit to a feature like
              Auto-condense upon auto-collapse?  That is to keep the
              relative space between nodes constant when they are
              smaller. </p>
            <div>On 16 Dec 2013 03:25, &quot;Jeroen
              Bakker&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:j.bakker@atmind.nl" target="_blank">j.bakker@atmind.nl</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Thanks for the feedback.<br>
                    <br>
                    We should discuss the &quot;auto collapse node feature&quot;.
                    It sounds like a workaround for a bigger subject:
                    Tree navigation.<br>
                    Can someone put it on the wiki?<br>
                    <br>
                    Greetings, <br>
                    Jeroen.<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 12/13/2013 10:46 PM, Aditia A. Pratama wrote:<br>
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                  <blockquote> Hi Jeroen &amp; Monique<br>
                    Thanks a lot for your magic :) Btw, can we have hide
                    node preference (not hide preview) ? IMO it will
                    increase space in editor, also avoiding miss
                    attaching node.<br>
                    So,the workaround when we add a new node, it will be
                    in hide mode. We can navigate it more easily and
                    attach it to any noodle. After that we can expand it
                    or use property panel to adjust the node.<br>
                    Thanks and Cheers.<br>
                    Aditia A. Pratama<br>
                    <a href="http://kampoongmonster.com" target="_blank">http://kampoongmonster.com</a><br>
                    <div>On Dec 13, 2013 7:51 AM,
                      &quot;David McSween&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:3pointedit@gmail.com" target="_blank">3pointedit@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <p dir="ltr">Wow, this development group has
                          already born some fruit for the holidays!
                          Thanks to everyone for clear and insightful
                          design and special thanks to devs for fitting
                          the code into their schedule. </p>
                        <div>On 10 Dec 2013
                          05:50, &quot;Jeroen Bakker&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:j.bakker@atmind.nl" target="_blank">j.bakker@atmind.nl</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi All,<br>
                            <br>
                            The changes for thumbnail previews and node
                            border colors have been<br>
                            merged with trunk.<br>
                            <br>
                            In the compositor only the input previews
                            will be visible by default.<br>
                            all others are made invisible. Via the
                            hide/show preview these can still<br>
                            be made visible.<br>
                            <br>
                            The node colors can be altered in the
                            UserPreferences. We should poke<br>
                            the themes maintainers to update their
                            themes.<br>
                            Also there is a small glitch that need to be
                            updated by them.<br>
                            <br>
                            Please give us feedback about the usage. So
                            what would be our next priority?<br>
                            <br>
                            Regards,<br>
                            Jeroen &amp; Monique<br>
                              - At Mind -<br>
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