<br>This reply is way off topic sorry Ettore.<br><br>I was on the list for a 3D connexion, spacenavigator. but have yet to see it turn up here, i was curious if there was a tracking number available for it, so i can check if its in the mail system somewhere, otherwise i fear its been lost.<br><br>Nice work on the plugin BTW, i was using a Spacenavigator of a friend who went to the Digital Earth confrence, and it was pretty nice.<br><br>Doug Ollivier<br>doug - mudpuddle.co.nz<br>
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From: Ettore Pasquini <ettore_pasquini@3dconnexion.com><br>
Subject: Re: [Bf-committers] NDOF<br>
Sent: 16 Aug '07 21:58<br>
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On 8/16/07 5:01 AM, "Carsten Wartmann" <<a mce_real_href="http://mbox.mudpuddle.co.nz/compose.php?to=cw@blenderbuch.de" href="http://mbox.mudpuddle.co.nz/compose.php?to=cw@blenderbuch.de" target="_top" style="text-decoration: underline;">cw@blenderbuch.de</a>> wrote:<br>
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> sfogoros schrieb:<br>
> <br>
>> I don't understand what you mean by Roll/Nick. The Nick part throws me<br>
>> off. <br>
> <br>
> Well maybe I am a bit biased by my hobby rc-helicopter flying... Also I<br>
> may missuse the terms a bit because of that.<br>
<br>
I also do not understand what you mean by Nick and why/how "Roll/Nick do<br>
wrong things in Fly mode".<br>
<br>
I do realize there's a lot of confusion given by terminology and just our<br>
own assumptions about how things should work, it's surprising to see how a<br>
3D world is subject to so many interpretations. If anyone feels like writing<br>
a wiki page about all this, that would help a lot I believe.<br>
<br>
> <br>
>> And, my guess is that when you say very small amounts of transform,<br>
>> I perceive how difficult it can be to move the view when the axes are<br>
>> swapped. When the axes are oriented correctly, fly mode allows very nice<br>
>> transforms.<br>
> <br>
> Yes, possibly.<br>
> <br>
> It seems that I come closer if I swap the zoom direction in the first<br>
> panel of the 3dconnexion control Panel.<br>
> <br>
> So but then I have to swap the zoom direction everytime I swap from fly<br>
> to transform mode.<br>
<br>
You shouldn't be needing to do that, that's not how the control panel is<br>
designed. The intent is to let the user choose a zoom direction per<br>
application, adjust the overall sensitivity and that of each individual<br>
axis, and then don't worry about it anymore. If you find yourself always in<br>
the control panel, something is wrong. and I'd say you can report this kind<br>
of bugs in this way, and I apologize in advance if this will sound too<br>
pedantic, I just want to build some common ground:<br>
<br>
choose your zoom direction preference and then get comfortable in just one<br>
of the currently supported modes (turntable, fly, transform). Start working<br>
with the control panel driver defaults and report which axes are swapped or<br>
too sensitive in your opinion. Then fix them individually to suit your<br>
needs, and move to the next mode. In theory you should not need to adjust<br>
them again: if you do, it means that the first mode you just configured is<br>
going to be screwed up and that's not what we want. So, report what<br>
adjustments you had to make *relative* to the previous mode. This way we can<br>
understand which mode needs fixing, and which individual axes needs<br>
sensitivity adjustments. Generally speaking, when you say something is too<br>
slow/fast/inverted, it's important for me to specify "compared to what",<br>
i.e. give the context or specify what is related to. :)<br>
<br>
Ettore<br>
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