[Bf-committers] 3D Cursor and Border Select

[Constantin Rahn]

+1

And why pressing shift in "RMB selection" to to expand you selection, 
and with border select it's always an additional selection?
If you want to have "non additional selection" with border selection, 
than you have to "select all" two times to have none selection, and than 
you select the elementswith border select (no additional selection).
It would be consistent to select only the elements inside the border. 
And if you want to have additional selection, than it should be shift 
and drawing the border.

Two or three years ago, I have talked with Ton about it. There he said, 
that it has something to do with the internal structure of blender. How 
both selections are called.
But for the consistence and the workflow it should be the same way for 
the user to make a new selection or to add something to an existing 
selection.

The consistence is one of the main problems of the blender UI/workflow.

It's the same with the topic DingTo (thomas) has mentioned: See 
"Inconsistent Object add" mail.
There is the different behavior of adding a default-object "box" and the 
default-object "torus" with the usage of last used parameters.
There the answer was the same: "It has something to do with blender 
internals, it's how the object is called" :(

The same with adding default-objects (like the cube or the torus) vs. 
adding an object with python (add-on). The default-objects are generated 
on the last active layer, but the python objects are generated on all 
visible layers. ("active layer" is not accessible with python, it's on 
Campbells to do).
(Try any add-on which adds an object, like eg. the bolt-factory)

There at first it was the same answer: "It has something to do with 
blender internals, how the object is generated."

I won't hear that answer any more. :(
Please, set the focus more on the consistence and the workflow from user 
perspective, and not how blender is working internal.

All these inconsistences are a nightmare for new users, and sometimes 
for long time blenderheads, too.

Am 28.02.2012 09:17, schrieb Damir Prebeg:
> Admit or not, this whole problem wouldn't exist at all If Blender
> would be consistent regarding RMB/LMB selection:
>
> Every Beginner(TM) by default will try to select something by clicking
> LMB. No matter what you say to him, he will do that intuitively
> because every other application he has ever used has LMB for selecting
> and RMB for menus. Why?
>
> When Beginner(TM) finally accepts RMB, he tries to border/circle
> select objects and he press B/C and RMB to select more objects...
> ups... wait... you can't use RMB to border/circle select objects, you
> have to use good old LMB to do that. Why?
>
> And Beginner(TM) doesn't understand why he have to use RMB to select
> object in 3D View and LMB to select that same object in Outliner. Why?
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