[Bf-committers] Simplified Header Stats (with icons)

Joshua Leung aligorith at gmail.com
Sun Dec 23 23:01:04 CET 2012


Hi,

On first glance, this proposal does indeed seem much clearer. As for the
concerns about the icons being distracting or able to be confused with
interactive elements, I'd have thought that using monochrome icons instead
of ones with the orange would be enough.

However, for those who still prefer just text, I did a quick experiment
just replacing the separators in the stats text with whitespace.
Specifically,
    text=scene.statistics().replace("|", "  ")

So, instead of:
    v2.66.1|Verts: 500|Faces: 200|Objects: 1/12
we'd have something more like:
    v2.66.1    Verts: 500     Faces: 200    Objects: 1/12

Even with a simple tweak like this, it's already much faster to scan than
the original version.


Joshua


On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Ejner Fergo <ejnersan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hola,
>
> I must admit I also had mixed feelings when seeing this proposal,
> especially with bright and distracting icons, but after using the latest
> version for a while I think it is very nice. I don't mistake the new icons
> for buttons now that they are toned down, and it is not distracting like I
> was afraid of.
>
> This is coming from someone who liked the pure text for it's "directness",
> but I actually feel the icons help me get a quicker overview in all
> modes/objects. And it looks much more friendly ;)
>
> If the point was to interact with these icons I would be totally against
> it, same if I had to activate something (panel, dropdown) to get my info.
> It need to be seen with a quick glance, and this patch helps with that,
> IMO.
>
> Best regards and happy holidays,
> Ejner Fergo
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Tobias Oelgarte <
> tobias.oelgarte at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > As long icons aren't disturbing, for example extremely colorful, i
> > prefer them often over text. So i would propose to use some more plain
> > looking icons, even so this icons are already quite plain. The blender
> > icon itself could be deemed as more disturbing and it displays are
> > rather useless number behind it. I see this number every time in the
> > splash screen, but more importantly i usually need to know the revision
> > number instead of the version number.
> >
> > If we want to be consistent, following your guideline, then we should
> > remove this icon as well. I know it is the famous blender icon... :P
> >
> > Considering the overall design, i have to say that anything goes, as
> > long it does not stand out or conflicts heavily with the rest of an
> > interface. I for my part would really like to get rid of this hard to
> > read text line and would not consider stats as buttons as long they have
> > no button-border or react to the mouse while hovering over them.
> >
> > Greetings from
> > Tobias Oelgarte
> >
> > Am 23.12.2012 11:35, schrieb Ton Roosendaal:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Even though it looks very nice at first sight, I think we should try to
> > keep the visual language of a UI consistent. Icons are UI elements,
> widgets
> > meant to provide user interaction with data or tools.
> > >
> > > Icons are also little eyecatchers, and should best be silent and
> > consistent (and not distract by changing position or shapes all the
> time).
> > For that reason the current text string is nice noise-free.
> > >
> > > I can see the issue of improving the way we provide statistics. We also
> > need better ways to communicate all kinds of states in Blender (which is
> > abusively printed over the 3d window even in cases).
> > >
> > > In some other programs, I've seen small statistic panels, that provide
> a
> > useful input for statistic options as well. Might be a better solution to
> > explore this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > -Ton-
> > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation   ton at blender.org
> www.blender.org
> > > Blender Institute   Entrepotdok 57A  1018AD Amsterdam   The Netherlands
> > >
> > > On 23 Dec, 2012, at 2:02, Harley Acheson wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hello again,
> > >>
> > >> I have updated the
> > >> patch<
> >
> http://projects.blender.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=33573&group_id=9&atid=127
> > >with
> > >> lots of changes resulting from all the
> > >> discussions on the BlenderArtists
> > >> thread<
> >
> http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?275390-Simplified-Header-Statistics-Display
> > >.
> > >> The response has been
> > >> overwhelmingly positive.
> > >>
> > >> If you just want a quick peek at what it looks like, the following
> image
> > >> shows it off very well:
> > >>
> >
> http://projects.blender.org/tracker/download.php/9/127/33573/23279/StatisticsIcons.png
> > >>
> > >> Harley
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