[Bf-committers] Removing Build Systems

[joe]

I agree with everyone here.  Maintaining a ton of build systems is a
pain (though at least we're not still maintaining MSVC 6.0 anymore :)
).

BTW, Scons can generate msvc project files.  It probably still uses
scons to build them, but I've been thinking of adding this to our
build system to see if I can get inter-project dependencies right (so
intellisense, used for source navigating and autocompletion, always
works).

Joe

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Diego Hernan Borghetti
<bdiego at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Apr 2009, Ton Roosendaal wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Well; I realize there are issues for merging, but for regular
>> development the various users of each build system have always kept
>> things work nicely.
>> As makefile user I can check on cmake though, no idea how good this
>> is... would it work on similar speed as make?
>
> As a makefile user I can say the same, give a try to cmake (but also no
> idea, never used it before).
>
> On the other side.. build system has been always broken for one or two
> days and "in my opinion", always go to be broken.. different system,
> different user, different preferences..
>
> So my point is that every build system have the good/bad thing, but in the
> end is just a dev/user preferences and always go to by that, if you try to
> work with the four at the same time, soon or later become a pain.
>
> I always used makefile for my project and never has been a problem, when I
> start working with blender, first try scons but I become tired of always
> have problem.. so I go back with makefiles.
>
> my question is: is it really need work with the four ?
> can you work only with one (cmake, make, scons, whatever) and let the
> dev/users of each build system update it ?
>
> Don't get me wrong, if the decision is remove the makefiles, I can move to
> cmake and live with that... it is just that I want to see a "good reason"
> for remove the makefiles.
>
>>
>> -Ton-
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Ton Roosendaal  Blender Foundation   ton at blender.org    www.blender.org
>> Blender Institute BV  Entrepotdok 57A  1018AD Amsterdam The Netherlands
>>
>> On 12 Apr, 2009, at 16:47, Brecht Van Lommel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We currently have 4 build systems being maintained: Makefiles, SCons,
>>> CMake and MSVC. Making changes for 2.5 development and doing merges
>>> for all 4 has gotten quite tedious and I've lost days fiddling with
>>> all these build systems. Further it seems that compilation breaks
>>> often because of lacking build system updates, which again takes time
>>> working with people in #blendercoders to get things building again.
>>>
>>> I thought the idea was that new build systems like SCons or CMake
>>> would replace existing ones, but that hasn't happened and things have
>>> just gotten more complicated instead of simplified.
>>>
>>> Could we remove some of these? Of course all of them have some
>>> advantage, but 4 seems unnecessary. In particular I'm proposing to:
>>>
>>> - Remove the Makefiles build system
>>> - Fix a few things in CMake to get it generating MSVC project files up
>>> to the same quality as the existing ones, and then remove the MSVC
>>> build system.
>>>
>>> SCons I think we should keep because it is well maintained and easy to
>>> use. CMake can generate native project files and is much faster than
>>> SCons on older systems. So we can keep both of these I suppose, though
>>> one would be ideal.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Brecht.
>>>
>>>
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