<div dir="ltr"><div>Is anyone else getting trouble to download graphicall builds? It says connection closed at byte (some random position). Downloaded the linux one after 8 tries with wget, plus a few more failed attempts with the browser.<br><br></div>A friend of mine is having the same problem. We're in two different parts of Spain with different ISPs.<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Sergey Sharybin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sergey.vfx@gmail.com" target="_blank">sergey.vfx@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>It is hard to justify how well it'll sustain all possible animation scenarios. Now when we're at BCon1, maybe we can be relaxed and merge the code to master?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_2558887785635806614h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Ton Roosendaal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ton@blender.org" target="_blank">ton@blender.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>This proposal went unreplied to, but I think it's important to give proper attention.</div><div><br></div><div>Doc and picture is here. It's actually quite obvious.</div><div><a href="http://graphicall.org/1221" target="_blank">http://graphicall.org/1221</a></div><div><br></div><div>I coded the old auto handle. It was an invention back then (no other sw had it), and I simply put the the handle points parallel to the line between the prev/next control point. Although that creates satisfying circles, it fails to interpolate well. This patch solves this, without breaking Blender (only on editing curves the handles re-cacalc).</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 16 May 2017, at 10:27, Alexander Gavrilov <<a href="mailto:angavrilov@gmail.com" target="_blank">angavrilov@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_2558887785635806614m_-1169724127018749459m_8008600252279006551Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Hello,<br><br>It's known that the way auto handles work in blender curves isn't great, and there<br>have been complaints that animators are often forced to either manually adjust all<br>curve handles, or bypass interpolation by keyframing every frame manually.<br><br>Obviously, automatic interpolation can't hope to produce better animation than<br>a human, but it should be usable when absolute top quality is not required.<br>Thus I have taken a somewhat old patch by Benoit Bolsee that implements a<br>mathematical approach that produces smooth F-Curves and did some rewriting<br>and adding features to get it working solidly.<br><br><br>However since I'm not an animator I cannot evaluate myself how well these<br>new auto-handles would work in practical workflows, and how significant is<br>the improvement in the interpolated motion compared to the old way.<br><br>One possible point of contention might be that producing smooth curves necessarily<br>means that modifying keys affects the curve even at some distance from the affected<br>key (although the degree of changes drops exponentially with distance, and propagation<br>is completely stopped by Auto Clamped extremes or manual handles.)<br><br>Also the degree this affects existing animations would determine how much attention<br>to backward compatibility would be needed if this is adopted in 2.8: should it e.g.<br>implement a legacy mode for curves created in previous versions with an explicit<br>upgrade operation, or keep the shape until the curve is modified, or just recalculate<br>shape etc.<br><br><br>I have uploaded a windows build of this branch (based on master for ease of<br>testing) to GraphicAll, with more details on the design in the description:<br><br><a href="http://graphicall.org/1221" target="_blank">http://graphicall.org/1221</a><br><br>The build there can open master branch files without problems, and the handles on<br>curves are only updated when the curve is touched by a modification operation<br>(even if it is cancelled like G Esc), which may aid comparing.<br><br>Alexander<br><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Bf-animsys mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Bf-animsys@blender.org" target="_blank">Bf-animsys@blender.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.blender.org/mailman/listinfo/bf-animsys" target="_blank">https://lists.blender.org/mail<wbr>man/listinfo/bf-animsys</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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